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tomcat
Joined: Oct 14, 2005 Posts: 141 Location: earth
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject:
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ENDIF wrote: | Would anyone be interested in sharing a Mouser, Futurlec, Digikey, or other supplier parts order list for this for us noobs?
Searching for just the right stuff among so many options is frustrating.
I'd like to submit this idea as a standard support component for all PCBs.. |
Its still DIY, isnt it? |
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keithwin
Joined: Jul 20, 2007 Posts: 83 Location: uk
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:32 am Post subject:
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Looking forward to my wogglebug PCB emensely,
anyone got any ideas for adding some LEDs to the
front panel?
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endif
Joined: Jul 14, 2006 Posts: 138 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject:
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I know I'm a noob. My snails pace at this Blacet VCO kit is testament to this.
What better way to de-noob than by having some go-to source when stuck that doesnt involve bugging anyone directly?
And I dont see how that's any different than, say, sharing suppliers or schematics.
Lastly, the idea itself comes from the excellent parts list for the Mankato filter, which is mostly Mouser part #'s with full descriptions, enabling those surmounting the learning curve to choose from the insane array of available components.
*shrug* _________________ ~ !J!
http://www.endif.org
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prophei
Joined: Jan 27, 2007 Posts: 234 Location: san francisco, ca
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject:
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poor endif... *snif*
do you need a hug?
ENDIF wrote: | I know I'm a noob. My snails pace at this Blacet VCO kit is testament to this.
What better way to de-noob than by having some go-to source when stuck that doesnt involve bugging anyone directly?
And I dont see how that's any different than, say, sharing suppliers or schematics.
Lastly, the idea itself comes from the excellent parts list for the Mankato filter, which is mostly Mouser part #'s with full descriptions, enabling those surmounting the learning curve to choose from the insane array of available components.
*shrug* |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24085 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject:
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prophei wrote: | do you need a hug? |
Of course ! humans have that, and it improves their lives _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Peake
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1113 Location: Loss Angeles
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject:
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I see that you posted this link nearly a year ago... It's broken now. Does it exist elsewhere? TIA... |
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kryptic
Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 40 Location: somewhere
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject:
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Peake wrote: |
I see that you posted this link nearly a year ago... It's broken now. Does it exist elsewhere? TIA... |
Check page two of this thread. |
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Peake
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1113 Location: Loss Angeles
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:50 am Post subject:
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I believe a character defect has been revealed...thanks for the nudge, and the answer! |
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endif
Joined: Jul 14, 2006 Posts: 138 Location: Reno, NV
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goldenechos
Joined: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Marshall, NC
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:31 am Post subject:
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How about an ETA on the boards? I want to make sure I have some vactrols around when they arrive.
TR |
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stegoman
Joined: Oct 05, 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Chatsworth, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject:
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Hi Everyone. This is my first post to electro-music and to this forum, so thanks for putting up with me.
I've read everything in the forum and looked at all the working links. I'm considering getting in on the 2nd run of boards from Jan Van Holt and I'm curious if anyone has added the 'Disturb' input to the current board? It seems to be the only missing item compared to the original Wiard Woggle Bug first order circuit. (Referring to http://www.wiard.com/support/WoggleBug-031001.pdf ) Adding the ring mod/XOR circuit to interconnect 2 boards will be a snap, but it seems that the Disturb input would add some significant sound pounding options.
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prophei
Joined: Jan 27, 2007 Posts: 234 Location: san francisco, ca
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject:
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i wish i had the answer! i was thinking about combining 2 of my boards as well, so i am very interested in any ways to further mimic the original.... |
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vtl5c3
Joined: Sep 08, 2006 Posts: 425 Location: PDX
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject:
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I've built two wogglebugs based on the #3 wogglebug circuit, the same thing the PCB that's being sold is based off of. I should point out that even without the Disturb feature, this module offers a great deal of options.
If you feel an overpowering need to add a Disturb option, I would recommend looking at Richard Brewster's site, since his version does include it:
http://www.pugix.com/wogglebug.htm
Looks like a small daughterboard with a quad opamp, some resistors and a few diodes connected to Pin 11 of the Woggle VCO will do the job. If you do try it out, let us know how it turns out!
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stegoman
Joined: Oct 05, 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Chatsworth, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject:
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I've seen Richard's page and I'm thinking that it would be pretty easy to hack that change into the current offering. I was wondering if anyone else had already done something like this. BTW, Richard is a great guy and puts out great work. I was lucky enough to get one of his CVS boards and I can't wait to get going on it. |
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Master of Circles
Joined: Jun 27, 2007 Posts: 14 Location: Hamburg
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:09 am Post subject:
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Hi everybody,
I want to order the parts for my wogglebug, but I donĀ“t know which Potentiometers I should buy.
Does anybody know if they are lin or log??
I refer to this PCB
http://diy.czmok.de/Group-Buys.66.0.html
Thanks in advance!
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goldenechos
Joined: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Marshall, NC
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:59 am Post subject:
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I used all linear and mine works great. Log pots are not as common around here and would have been noted in the parts list/ schematic.
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prophei
Joined: Jan 27, 2007 Posts: 234 Location: san francisco, ca
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:22 am Post subject:
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vtl5c3 wrote: | I've built two wogglebugs based on the #3 wogglebug circuit, the same thing the PCB that's being sold is based off of. I should point out that even without the Disturb feature, this module offers a great deal of options.
If you feel an overpowering need to add a Disturb option, I would recommend looking at Richard Brewster's site, since his version does include it:
http://www.pugix.com/wogglebug.htm
Looks like a small daughterboard with a quad opamp, some resistors and a few diodes connected to Pin 11 of the Woggle VCO will do the job. If you do try it out, let us know how it turns out!
Romeo |
ok, i have been putting this circuit together this morning, and "think" i am almost done with it. i do have a few questions though...
on richard's design he has only an arrow coming out for both pins 4 & 11, which i took to likely refer to power or something. i opened the data sheet for these pins and found that pin 4 is for +V and 11 is ground, which i find strange, as ground is marked as such all over richard's schematic... any ideas?
also, richard's schematic shows pin 7 leading up to one side of the "woggle range" pot to rejoin the rest of the circuit... thing is, the woggle #3 circuit we have been building connects to this pin differently, and i am not sure where best to connect with pin 7. richard's adaptation of the wogglebug design is clearly different.
any help would be awesome! |
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vtl5c3
Joined: Sep 08, 2006 Posts: 425 Location: PDX
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject:
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Hello,
I think you're referring to the woggle-wog.pdf diagram.
Pin 4 is V+ Pin 11 is V-. That's for a TL074 or most other quad opamps.
The other bit, regarding Pin 7 of the opamp going to the woggle-range pot... that's different from the wogglebug #3 because Richard figured out a way to add the Disturb feature. Remember that the #3 version was one of the prototypes that lead to the more fully featured version that Grant actually charges money for.
R. |
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prophei
Joined: Jan 27, 2007 Posts: 234 Location: san francisco, ca
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject:
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vtl5c3 wrote: | Hello,
I think you're referring to the woggle-wog.pdf diagram.
Pin 4 is V+ Pin 11 is V-. That's for a TL074 or most other quad opamps.
The other bit, regarding Pin 7 of the opamp going to the woggle-range pot... that's different from the wogglebug #3 because Richard figured out a way to add the Disturb feature. Remember that the #3 version was one of the prototypes that lead to the more fully featured version that Grant actually charges money for.
R. |
if you check here: http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM124.pdf you will see that pin 11 is actually ground. odd?
also, i am aware that the designs are different, though there was some discussion about adding the disturb to the #3.... i am just curious if it is even possible... |
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vtl5c3
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject:
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OK, I didn't see that it was an LM324. You might want to check with Richard Brewster to see if he really intended to use it with a bipolar supply or if the negative rail designator is an error or should be ground.
LM324s can be used with bipolar supplies, but if I were you, I'd use a TL084 or 74 instead. |
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prophei
Joined: Jan 27, 2007 Posts: 234 Location: san francisco, ca
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject:
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vtl5c3 wrote: | OK, I didn't see that it was an LM324. You might want to check with Richard Brewster to see if he really intended to use it with a bipolar supply or if the negative rail designator is an error or should be ground.
LM324s can be used with bipolar supplies, but if I were you, I'd use a TL084 or 74 instead. |
thanks for the tip! once i figure out where to conenct this circuit properly to my woggle#3, i'll be ready to go |
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Serenadi
Joined: Jul 03, 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:59 am Post subject:
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vtl5c3 wrote: | LM324s can be used with bipolar supplies, but if I were you, I'd use a TL084 or 74 instead. |
Shure, you can try.
But don't expect the same sound.
I tried to exchange the LM324 by a TL074 in a phaser unit.
My intention was to reduce noise.
It was a failure, in the end it sounds nasty.
It's no problem to use the LM324 with bipolar supply, it depends on the circuit if it is recommended, however.
If you use an OpAmp with single supply, there is an offset at the output of half of the supply voltage. This may be a problem if its function is used to control voltages. So be careful. |
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stegoman
Joined: Oct 05, 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Chatsworth, California, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:16 am Post subject:
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I've just finished looking closely at the Disturb circuit on David's schematic (http://www.pugix.com/images/woggle-wog.pdf) versus the WoggleBug #3 circuit (http://diy.czmok.de/fileadmin/wogglebug-schem.pdf) for the current production board. David's disturb circuit can be done as a daughter board that hooks up to pin 3 of the "Smooth Range" pot instead of tying that pin to ground! If you look at the disturb circuit, it will be at ground if no input signals are supplied. Add 12 resistors, 1 pot, 2 diodes, and an IC. Or just use one disturb input and drop the pot and 4 resistors.
Question: How do you properly connect the unused section of the LM324 in order to prevent it's causing any issues? |
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prophei
Joined: Jan 27, 2007 Posts: 234 Location: san francisco, ca
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject:
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stegoman wrote: | I've just finished looking closely at the Disturb circuit on David's schematic (http://www.pugix.com/images/woggle-wog.pdf) versus the WoggleBug #3 circuit (http://diy.czmok.de/fileadmin/wogglebug-schem.pdf) for the current production board. David's disturb circuit can be done as a daughter board that hooks up to pin 3 of the "Smooth Range" pot instead of tying that pin to ground! If you look at the disturb circuit, it will be at ground if no input signals are supplied. Add 12 resistors, 1 pot, 2 diodes, and an IC. Or just use one disturb input and drop the pot and 4 resistors.
Question: How do you properly connect the unused section of the LM324 in order to prevent it's causing any issues? |
but how is it powered properly? looking at his schematic, i believe he uses pins 4 & 11, but it doesn't specify what it goes to. i tried to find his email online, but was unsuccessful.
any idea's anyone? |
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goldenechos
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:46 am Post subject:
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stegoman wrote: | I've just finished looking closely at the Disturb circuit on David's schematic (http://www.pugix.com/images/woggle-wog.pdf) versus the WoggleBug #3 circuit (http://diy.czmok.de/fileadmin/wogglebug-schem.pdf) for the current production board. David's disturb circuit can be done as a daughter board that hooks up to pin 3 of the "Smooth Range" pot instead of tying that pin to ground! If you look at the disturb circuit, it will be at ground if no input signals are supplied. Add 12 resistors, 1 pot, 2 diodes, and an IC. Or just use one disturb input and drop the pot and 4 resistors.
Question: How do you properly connect the unused section of the LM324 in order to prevent it's causing any issues? |
For each unused section, connect Negative terminal to Ouput terminal. Connect Positive terminal to GND.
Tony |
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