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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject:
Gilles Deleuze - MILLE PLATEAUX Subject description: and a discussion with Richard Pinhas |
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An interesting text _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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bachus
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject:
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Quote: | and which would be a kind of mixture (of course, this notion of mixture remains to be defined), and where one would have a time which would be both continuous and event-ual [ÈvÈnementiel], which would be at the same time of the order of the continuum, | I find this a little confusing to say the least. He is using the terms time and continuum, which have a certain contextual meaning to me but one that makes me ask: Does he mean by order the the number of dimensions of the continuum?" _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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bachus
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject:
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I can't tell if this is a joke or just so deep I'm too dumb to figure it out. And damn! I hate it when that happens.
d'oh!
d'oh!
d'oh!
_________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:28 am Post subject:
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The Gilles Deleuze - MILLE PLATEAUX thing is interesting, but not vital. It has gained some mythological aspects already though. Anyways, the Pinhas text is amusing, probably mostly for those who already know something about the guy, but I reckoned you already knew of the book Intellectual Impostures ( by Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont ). You might enjoy a review of the book by Richard Dawkins.
Basically that book ( Intellectual Impostures, that is ) kicks some serious postmodernist ass. You yourself commented on the fact that the Pinhas text thingie contained some gibberish involving a terminology kinda ripped off from proper science but used in a way that looks cool unless you know your science well.
You might say that the Pinhas text thingie makes more sense ( in a profound way ) if you don´t know a thing about science and the history of science ( and philosphy ). _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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bachus
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:31 am Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | .... but I reckoned you already knew of the book Intellectual Impostures ( by Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont ).
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Sigh...you over estimate me again.
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They go on to quote the following remarkable piece of reasoning by Lacan:
Thus, by calculating that signification according to the algebraic method used here, namely:
You don't have to be a mathematician to see that this is ridiculous. It recalls the Aldous Huxley character who proved the existence of God by dividing zero into a number, thereby deriving the infinite. In a further piece of reasoning that is entirely typical of the genre, Lacan goes on to conclude that the erectile organ
... is equivalent to the of the signification produced above, of the jouissance that it restores by the coefficient of its statement to the function of lack of signifier (-1).
We do not need the mathematical expertise of Sokal and Bricmont to assure us that the author of this stuff is a fake. Perhaps he is genuine when he speaks of non-scientific subjects? But a philosopher who is caught equating the erectile organ to the square root of minus one has, for my money, blown his credentials when it comes to things that I don't know anything about. |
Well that is refreshingly clarifying.
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Added the image of the pseudo equation. _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham Last edited by bachus on Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:14 am; edited 1 time in total |
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elektro80
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:10 am Post subject:
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bachus wrote: |
Well that is refreshingly clarifying. |
I knew you would see it that way... _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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bachus
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:22 am Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | bachus wrote: |
Well that is refreshingly clarifying. |
I knew you would see it that way... |
Yet I was wrong, 'twas neither joke nor deep, but either insane or malicious gibberish. Hmmm, now of what does that remind me? _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:28 am Post subject:
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bought the book some years ago, but didn´t have the time to get really deep into it. nevertheless funny to read a few pages on the shithouse. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject:
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Oh dear God, I did my grad work at Duke at a time when this sort of claptrap was all the rage in the English halls.
It reminds me of a story about my cousin. He came home from Sunday school one week, about age 10, slammed the book down on the table and said, "THAT'S BULLSHIT." And his mom said, good! Only took you a few years to figure that out.
Except in that hothouse, you had to kiss those pimply, hairy Lacanian/Zizekian asses to get anywhere. I was awfully glad to be in music where I could ignore most of it.
James _________________ ddw online: http://www.dewdrop-world.net
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bachus
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject:
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dewdrop_world wrote: | Oh dear God, I did my grad work at Duke at a time when this sort of claptrap was all the rage in the English halls....
James | _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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