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sascha neudeck



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: me too Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

pls count me in with 2 PCBs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Count me in for 2, too.

Any hope for a board (or schemo) of your string filter? banana
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

guitarfool wrote:
Count me in for 2, too.

Any hope for a board (or schemo) of your string filter? banana


I would have to completely redesign the string filter.

I have used a variety of General Impedance Converter circuit that I haven't seen in any textbook, only to find out that it worked - but only with a certain batch (date code) of a certain dual opamp, that I had the luck of using when I prototyped it. I had to struggle to find enough of these chips to populate all the sockets in one - my own - device; no chance to sell anything like that as a diy-project.
I know exactly what I'd have to change to get this stable; but it will be a redesign, and I need the time to do this, and it doesn't have a high priority.

I'm still trying to get used to "pipeline designing". People start to mail me about when the tau phaser boards will be ready for shipment already.
I'm going on to design and layout new things because I love it and it's my hobby. But I'll really wait and see how smoothly the first project (Tau) will go, before I decide to sell anything else.
From the design point of view, I'm really getting a taste for making pcb layouts - it's almost as fun as making the circuits themselves, so the chances are good for more pcbs in the future. String filter - why not?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What are you doing at 5am on a Saturday morning? It's 7.30am here now and I can't sleep any more!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

StephenGiles wrote:
What are you doing at 5am on a Saturday morning? It's 7.30am here now and I can't sleep any more!!


5 am seems a bit exaggerated - must be a time zone thing. Laughing

I had a splendid night last night: My wife and I made a 20km bike ride to the next town and back - quite scary, pitch black in the woods, no moon to be seen - to check out a new restaurant, that was said to offer quite exotic meals. I took the Pyton, and it was quite an experience! Very Happy

So it was definitely after midnight when I was back to answering mails and forum entries, but certainly not 5 am. I normally go to bed around 3 when my health allows it; night time is the best time for my hobby!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The time zone indication is wierd on these sites, I hope you enjoyed your new restaurant. We might be eating at an Argentine restaurant about 7 km away this evening - wonderful steak!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

StephenGiles wrote:
The time zone indication is wierd on these sites,


You can set you time zone in your profile, under preferences. All times should then be adjusted to your time zone. So, when you see something was posted at 5 AM, it was your time - not necessarily the poster's.

I deal with timezones a lot. I find a little Firefox addon called FoxClocks very useful to keep track of things. http://www.stemhaus.com/firefox/foxclocks/

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You can count me in
for 2 pics
thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Interested! I`m for one or two sets!

Synthi
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

2 please
thanks a bunch
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

forgot: 2x boards pls
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tomcat wrote:
Im in for a compact order of one! Very Happy


What the heck. Please update to 2 boards Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tomcat wrote:
tomcat wrote:
Im in for a compact order of one! Very Happy


What the heck. Please update to 2 boards Mr. Green


Thanks for all who are showing interest.

When I'm going to offer a pcb for this, I'll ask for binding orders, just as I did with the tau. But not yet.

Currently I have the prototype frequency shifter board half-populated with components. I took a break when the package of Tau boards came in ....

JH.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Jurgen - I hope you are finding time for some fun these days! We tried a new Argentine restaurant on Friday evening, after the floods here, which was superb - it was like being in Buenos Aires for 2 hours!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Shifter Boards Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Count me in for a set of boards for the freq shift

cheers
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sound Sample from prototype PCB, and further proceeding

I've soldered all components to the prototype board of the main FS-1A PCB, and made a quick demo in connection with an old Dome Filter board (that I had originally made for the FS-2).
It's all hooked up with alligator clips, and connected to the insert path of my mixing console because I needed a microphone preamp.
I think it's a quite stupid demo, but it shows that the new board works, and I think the sound is very clean for a frequency shifter!

Unfortunately, I'll have to make a redesign of the main PCB.
I noticed that some of the LM13600s I have in the drawer don't work properly, because their gm matching is too bad for that application.
In my prototype, I've used a NE5517, and it works perfectly; but that doesn't mean every NE5517 would. So, I'm adding a gm balancing potentiometer to the new design, which will fix the problem, but which means extra investment in another prototype. Sad

I also have ideas for the second board.
I'll probably include an extra string of all pass filters, for a deeper Barberpole Phaser effect.
And maybe an aread with veroboard-like structure, for everyone to experiment with additions of his/her own. More about the 2nd board later.

I think even though I expect considerably less demand for this project than for the Tau phaser (it's a more difficult project, after all!), the price per board could be similar, so expect something around 55 ... 60 Euro for the set of 2 boards.

JH.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jhaible wrote:
Sound Sample from prototype PCB, and further proceeding




Laughing Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh what the hell. Can I ask for a board too?

Everybody is asking for two (Stereo?). Wendy Carlos produced fantastic results with just one, so I'll stick with one for now Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sounds wonderful! i will def need a pcb!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

v-un-v wrote:
Oh what the hell. Can I ask for a board too?

Everybody is asking for two (Stereo?). Wendy Carlos produced fantastic results with just one, so I'll stick with one for now Very Happy


Just to clarify: You need a set of two boards for one frequency shifter: The main board, which I have just prototyped and which will undergo a redesign, plus a second board with dome filter, mic amplifier, and auxiliary stuff.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

what are the dimensions of the actual pcb's? could one fit this into a modular sort of system instead of the traditional rack system that the designs look like?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

prophei wrote:
what are the dimensions of the actual pcb's? could one fit this into a modular sort of system instead of the traditional rack system that the designs look like?


160mm x 100mm

There should be a mail further up in this thread about mechanical considerations ...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jhaible wrote:

Just to clarify: You need a set of two boards for one frequency shifter.


Okay good. That clears that one up Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Jurgen, that is amazing and even more amazing is your English! I believe that I mentioned above that I would like a set of boards for this.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

StephenGiles wrote:
Jurgen, that is amazing and even more amazing is your English!


Oh the joys of globalisa.......whoops, ahem.....globaliZation! Wink Rolling Eyes

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