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fill in color for CNC frontpanels
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fonik



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: fill in color for CNC frontpanels Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i thougth it could be of some interest:

i bought this special crayon for color fill ins:
http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=EN&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=LS-KIT&Store_Code=MTE

i had an old schaeffer CNC fronpanel in my drawer and tried the LA-CO "Liquer Stik fill in color". works fine. 5 minutes for one panel. i was told that the color would dry off and cure in a day...
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/12505885@N00/

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fonik, thank you so much for posting this. I have a cnc router and was curious what I could use to full in the routed areas. Yay!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That looks great.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks great! Not surprised though, all your projects are impressive.

This would also enable a plain aluminum panel to have black graphics (or other dark color) assuming they have black, etc crayons available.

As always, thanks for sharing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for this valuable tip !

Yves

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i should add that it realy has a great look and feel. the engraving is filled with the color (instead of smud and crud) so you get a plane surface.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh, its filled with color. Thats even more nice. Maybe you can make a stress test after drying Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Stupid question. What do you use to clean the excess off with?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is that orange fluorescent?
I'm thinking it would look extra nice illuminated with some UV LED lights on little goosenecks if it was.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

@tomcat
i will take a look at it tonight.

@edison
just use a dry kitchen towel. no need for cleanser.

@g2ian
no. it's plain orange.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

looks great, thanks for passing this along.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

*bump*

For stateside folks, these are available from Industrial Supplies (http://gsgindustrial.com/searchresult.aspx?CategoryID=51) for about US$1.30, and from Brownell's (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/productdetail.aspx?p=7778
for US$2.95.

I know nothing about Industrial Supply, and there's no mention of a minimum order. I have purchased many items from Brownell's, the customer service is excellent, the products are excellent, but they are pricey. You do get a discount if you have a friendly FFL.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

fonik:
Neat, did out seal the panel with some vanish or such after you painted
the panel?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

fizmoo wrote:
fonik:
Neat, did out seal the panel with some vanish or such after you painted
the panel?

no, not necessary. the fill in paint will dry and then be very resistant.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

great Tip, thanks !

@Fonik
How Many Panels can be coloured with one stick ?
Let's say your panels.



here is the Link to single colours:
http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=EN&Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=MTE&Category_Code=PAI
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fonik ....... this is very cool !!! Thanks for posting this ! Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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For stateside folks, these are available from Industrial Supplies


Thanks for the state side site. seems reasonably priced. Very Happy

Fonik, what kind of coverage can you get with a single stick? This would be good knowledge for planning a quantity I would need for a given panel size.

Thanks again !
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

State Machine wrote:
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For stateside folks, these are available from Industrial Supplies


Thanks for the state side site. seems reasonably priced. Very Happy

Fonik, what kind of coverage can you get with a single stick? This would be good knowledge for planning a quantity I would need for a given panel size.

Thanks again !
Bill

for the four panels you see above plus a 16TE wasp vcf panel i needed about 15% of the black stik...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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for the four panels you see above plus a 16TE wasp vcf panel i needed about 15% of the black stik...


OK, thanks. It really goes a long way then. I have some VCF panels I will be getting done so I will get the panels engraved only instead of getting the colors filled in by Scheaffer to save some cash. I will get some of these sticks and give it a whirl.

Thanks ...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How do you think this would fare on a synthesizers.com blank that already has flat black paint on it?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm about ordering some Schaeffer-frontpanels for my FracRak. The panels will be black but I can't decide upon the lettering: White or silver?

While silver might sounds strange it'll probably blend nicely with Wiard/MOTM-style knobs and the jacks. What do yo think?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you might want to take a look at my black modules or the waterproof soundlab. these frontpanels are black anodized with no color fill - silver, so to say. i like it...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks Fonik, yes, that looks fine. One of my panels is without any paint which I think a bit dull, however, I might have chosen a too narrow graver (0,2mm) and too small letters (0,2mm).

This time I'll go for DIN1451 and a 0,4mm or a 0,6mm graver and 2,5mm letters.

Which width had the graver used for your panel?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

0.2mm, even for the new panels with black fill-in color, which i fill with the color mentioned in this thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ilanode wrote:
small letters (0,2mm).

2mm!

@Fonik, I'll give it another try without paint since I can add the Lacquer Stik paint later. Thanks.
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