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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: wire questions. good source of wire?? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

please. i need to find a company that sells good wire but not too much. i need stranded and solid 22 /24 gauge. pretinned maybe?

at radio shack they sell 100' rolls of untinned for about 8 bucks. mousers 100 foot rolls are around 18-23 dollars. is their wire way better?

i have a real tough time using stranded with any project that has to fit through breadboard holes so i avoid it until the project is being made on perfboard. so i guess i use solid a lot. but some brands seem to break more than others.

thanks as usual

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Try SmallBear

http://www.smallbearelec.com/home.html

Go to "Stock List", "Wire", second page.

http://www.smallbearelec.com/Categories.bok?category=Wire+And+Cable&searchpath=11715&start=9&total=13

He has mil grade 24 AWG in all diferent colors, 5 bucks for 50 ft. It's really good - the only thing I use anymore.

Hope this helps,

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: awesome!!! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks alot

looks like a great deal!!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

+1 for steve @ smallbears wire. Semi rigid, available in 10 colors, and way more forgiving than Rat Shack wire WRT insulation and your soldering iron tip...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

All Electronics has good prices on wire
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

but is it bonded?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Bonded? Do you mean pre-tinned? No, it's not.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i am not sure if pretinned is the same. what bonded means is that the strands are almost glued together (through the whole wire) so that it is VERY easy to thread (even on breadboards) through a hole -which is NOT the case with regular stranded where the wire strands bend all over the place, for instance when trying to thread a piece of wire through a tiny pcb hole.


this wire from small bear has really made me convert to pre-bonded stranded. now i prefer it to solid in ALL cases.

maybe i will just get it from small bear

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Why not just use stranded wire which you have tinned at the end before inserting into the pcb hole?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

for breadboarding use solid core 22 or 24awg

i've had some pretinned stuff ( still have a LOT of it) that is just too brittle for me to work with. it breaks pretty easily, i just grabbed some of the allelectronic stuff to test it and its pretinned but each strand is pretinned individually, so far not brittle at all, digging it. i usually use the jameco stuff and tin it myself as i work

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

loss1234 wrote:
i am not sure if pretinned is the same. what bonded means is that the strands are almost glued together (through the whole wire) so that it is VERY easy to thread (even on breadboards) through a hole -which is NOT the case with regular stranded where the wire strands bend all over the place, for instance when trying to thread a piece of wire through a tiny pcb hole.


Ah ok. When I'm using stranded wire, I'll twist the stripped portion so the wire acts as a bundle. Based on your description, it doesn't sound like you're doing that. Or, you might be using too large a gauge. Either way, use what works for you.

I never use stranded on breadboards. This is what I use when breadboarding.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hmmm.. for those of you who havent tried the small bear wire, do yourself a favor. tinning my own wire seems to slow me down. and this wire is so strong and unbrittle, never breaks, great colors, etc. i sound like an ad but its true, i hated stranded before this wire!!

i think i answered my own question.

thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IMO, you should *always* pre-tin any wires, leads or posts you are soldering. It actually saves you time, because the soldering goes faster, and you avoid possible bad solder joints. This is especially important nowadays with the ROHAS materials -- you never know what your leads are covered with, and many of them have rather poor wetability.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i grabbed this for bread boarding and could not be happier, just cut it all to whatever length you need and make a pile of pots with longish leads on them so breadboarding so very quickly


http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/22TW-400/search/22_GA_SOLID,_TWISTED_PAIR,_400_FT_.html


right Ian but i've had some pretinned wire that just takes solder so well it saves a lot of time when you do pretin to make sure its prep'ed, and i think that is what loss is talking about? last time i looked at small bear they were out so i moved on. i'll give it a try though

this is the stuff from allelectronics that is pretinned and stranded and it takes solder incredibly well.... so far.

http://www.allelectronics.com/matrix/Hook_Up_100.html


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks for the tip on pretinning. i had heard about it but i wasnt sure if i needed to do it with solid core or with stranded only.

if itll make things easier, i will try it.

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