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loss1234
Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:00 am Post subject:
wire questions. good source of wire?? |
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please. i need to find a company that sells good wire but not too much. i need stranded and solid 22 /24 gauge. pretinned maybe?
at radio shack they sell 100' rolls of untinned for about 8 bucks. mousers 100 foot rolls are around 18-23 dollars. is their wire way better?
i have a real tough time using stranded with any project that has to fit through breadboard holes so i avoid it until the project is being made on perfboard. so i guess i use solid a lot. but some brands seem to break more than others.
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guitarfool
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loss1234
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goodrevdoc
Joined: Sep 11, 2006 Posts: 288 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject:
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+1 for steve @ smallbears wire. Semi rigid, available in 10 colors, and way more forgiving than Rat Shack wire WRT insulation and your soldering iron tip...
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factus10
Joined: Jun 20, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject:
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All Electronics has good prices on wire |
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loss1234
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factus10
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject:
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Bonded? Do you mean pre-tinned? No, it's not. |
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loss1234
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject:
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i am not sure if pretinned is the same. what bonded means is that the strands are almost glued together (through the whole wire) so that it is VERY easy to thread (even on breadboards) through a hole -which is NOT the case with regular stranded where the wire strands bend all over the place, for instance when trying to thread a piece of wire through a tiny pcb hole.
this wire from small bear has really made me convert to pre-bonded stranded. now i prefer it to solid in ALL cases.
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Danno Gee Ray
Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1351 Location: Telford, PA USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject:
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Why not just use stranded wire which you have tinned at the end before inserting into the pcb hole? |
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para
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:53 am Post subject:
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for breadboarding use solid core 22 or 24awg
i've had some pretinned stuff ( still have a LOT of it) that is just too brittle for me to work with. it breaks pretty easily, i just grabbed some of the allelectronic stuff to test it and its pretinned but each strand is pretinned individually, so far not brittle at all, digging it. i usually use the jameco stuff and tin it myself as i work
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factus10
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:34 am Post subject:
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loss1234 wrote: | i am not sure if pretinned is the same. what bonded means is that the strands are almost glued together (through the whole wire) so that it is VERY easy to thread (even on breadboards) through a hole -which is NOT the case with regular stranded where the wire strands bend all over the place, for instance when trying to thread a piece of wire through a tiny pcb hole. |
Ah ok. When I'm using stranded wire, I'll twist the stripped portion so the wire acts as a bundle. Based on your description, it doesn't sound like you're doing that. Or, you might be using too large a gauge. Either way, use what works for you.
I never use stranded on breadboards. This is what I use when breadboarding. |
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loss1234
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frijitz
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:35 am Post subject:
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IMO, you should *always* pre-tin any wires, leads or posts you are soldering. It actually saves you time, because the soldering goes faster, and you avoid possible bad solder joints. This is especially important nowadays with the ROHAS materials -- you never know what your leads are covered with, and many of them have rather poor wetability.
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para
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject:
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i grabbed this for bread boarding and could not be happier, just cut it all to whatever length you need and make a pile of pots with longish leads on them so breadboarding so very quickly
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/22TW-400/search/22_GA_SOLID,_TWISTED_PAIR,_400_FT_.html
right Ian but i've had some pretinned wire that just takes solder so well it saves a lot of time when you do pretin to make sure its prep'ed, and i think that is what loss is talking about? last time i looked at small bear they were out so i moved on. i'll give it a try though
this is the stuff from allelectronics that is pretinned and stranded and it takes solder incredibly well.... so far.
http://www.allelectronics.com/matrix/Hook_Up_100.html
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loss1234
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