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mono-poly
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:05 am Post subject:
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Norman Phay wrote: | mono-poly wrote: | Norman Phay wrote: | mono-poly wrote: | My Wiard Klee slider version.
Need to do another 2 in different formats. |
WOW that looks awesome, Denis. You wouldn't be into making an extra one up, by any chance, would you? |
Norman if Grant agrees that you can have a panel.
Then i would be happy to share the panel design with you.
I can't just share stuff with his graphics without his permision.
But if he agrees you could have a panel like this to. |
Should I email Grant about this, then? Loads of thanks, man. |
Yeah email him or maybe a phonecall? |
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loopcycle
Joined: Nov 06, 2006 Posts: 101 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject:
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Photon wrote: | Heres the preliminary design for the panels for my Klee desktop unit. Its split into two panels (the console is wedge shaped). The sliders will be on a 15˚ sloped face. The other will be horizontal. all jacks are positioned in the back to help with wire management. I was heavily influenced by the work of the industrial designers over at DEC in the mid-sixties. Hopefully that shows. I'm going to have these reverse printed onto the back of 5 mil velvet lexan, so they'll be quite durable. |
thanks for posting that layout. i like the vertical flow of the subgroupings in each logical control grouping and the space allowed between them...this was something i was thinking about/working out in my own design (avoiding a design that pulls my visual attention in multiple directions or is just too busy). |
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loopcycle
Joined: Nov 06, 2006 Posts: 101 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject:
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Uncle Krunkus wrote: | Here's the sub panel, finished and ready for the sliders. |
another idea for the subpanel--what if: instead of measuring/drilling/countersinking each slider mounting hole on a subpanel, two rectangular slots were cut out, allowing variable mounting locations of each slider (for a little more 'wiggle' room)? there might be more room for error between the front panel and the subpanel, and it might be way cheaper to make as an FPE panel. just thinking out loud here. |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Joined: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 4761 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject:
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I think the only issue with that, (which I kinda mulled over a bit at the time) is how close the subpanel is to the main panel. If, like me, your spacings mean that you want it flush, a slot won't work, as you'd have to put angled edges on it to accomodate countersunk screws, and then they would "spread" the slot.
If, however, you ditch the spacers on the sliders, use short mushroom head screws to mount the sliders in the slots, and then set it back from the main panel by putting washers on the switches (between panels) then this would make clearance for the mushroom heads. I suppose you wouldn't really need washers, It would all sit flat anyway because of the size of it. Just be sure the switches thread is long enough for both panels and the depth of the screw heads.
I'm kinda impressed that I came up with the same idea as was used on the MS20. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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factus10
Joined: Jun 20, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject:
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I'm still contemplating the slider vs rotary pot but I know if I do sliders, I'm just going to cut out a big ol' hole instead of individual slots. I figure I'll slap some of that craft foam or felt in front of the sliders to catch dust. |
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fonik
Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:
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factus10 wrote: | fonik,
was your panel done by shaeffer? would you mind uploading the fpe file if so?
thanks!
david |
yes, a schaeffer panel. i gave it to mono-poly so i could contribute it to the thread also, i guess. i will leave off the graphics, though - just the holes. i actually don't want to see a copy of my very green klee
will upload it tomorrow. _________________
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matthias
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mono-poly
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:
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Cool
Thanx for letting me use yours as a basic idea.
But i changed a lot, but i liked the main idea! |
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factus10
Joined: Jun 20, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject:
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thanks! your panel hits some of the main points for me (like a din jack for midi) and I'm not super adept at FPE just yet so a reference to play with would be awesome. |
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goodrevdoc
Joined: Sep 11, 2006 Posts: 288 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject:
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Hey Ryk, those same C&K switches are going cheap over at electronic surplus: C&K Switches
-justin |
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Scott Stites
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Joined: Dec 23, 2005 Posts: 4127 Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject:
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Holy crap! If those are 7211's (number seems to indicate it), that's a helluva good deal. Love those 7211's.
Is anyone else having any problems viewing page 2 of this thread, or is it just my crap computer?
Cheerio,
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Danno Gee Ray
Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1351 Location: Telford, PA USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject:
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I just looked at page 2 ok. Must be at your end. |
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Scott Stites
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject:
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Crap!
It's been one of those days....... _________________ My Site |
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loopcycle
Joined: Nov 06, 2006 Posts: 101 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject:
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page 2 is a bit heavy on the attachments. |
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fonik
Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Luka
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.
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fonik
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:09 am Post subject:
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Luka wrote: | ok here is my second round try on 5x9U format |
that's what i call compact. i like it. _________________
cheers,
matthias
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mono-poly
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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fonik
Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject:
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mono-poly wrote: | 345 euro schaeffer panel!
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did you adapt all our price reducing techniques? (no color fill, one text object with multiple paragraphs, hpgl for scales) _________________
cheers,
matthias
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mono-poly
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject:
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Nope i should check it out.
Because this price makes no sense.
And i am not 100% happy with the layout yet. |
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Pehr
Joined: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 1307 Location: Björkvik, Sweden
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject:
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Very Nice Work. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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Alienation
Joined: Jul 23, 2007 Posts: 47 Location: Midsouth
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject:
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Nice indeed...... |
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23isgood
Joined: Nov 18, 2006 Posts: 236 Location: San Francisco, CA bay area
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:27 am Post subject:
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Yes, very nice. I really like the table top box approach. Cool stuff fur sure! _________________ Check out my music |
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Pehr
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loopcycle
Joined: Nov 06, 2006 Posts: 101 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:36 am Post subject:
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ok, so ive been mulling the panel layout day and night. it feels like an obsession--im dreaming about panel and i wake up thinking about soldering anyway, i decided that i would at least proto one or two designs in easily-obtainable/cheap material before i get the nerve (and cash) up to do a proper FPE panel. so, without boring you with the mental journey ive taken, i found my enclosure: a wooden box. it has a working area of about 12" high x 15" wide for all panel components, and there is room inside for its own PSU and the circuit boards.
now the enclosure is helping to direct my thoughts about laying my components out...and an idea struck me--im thinking of laying out my 1-16 steps out something like:
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1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8
16 - 15- 14 - 13 - 12 - 11 - 10 - 9
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(two rows of 8 each work well for the enclosure shape)
the leds would be in the center.
then the rotary pots (no sliders).
then the bit enable switches.
finally, the gate bus switches.
its basically a rectangular radial shape.
ill try to provide a layout soon, but this is probably a good description.
i would like to hear any thoughts about shortcomings or disadvantages of this design (BEFORE i start drilling )--thanks! |
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