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diversity? I thought we were diverse.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: diversity? I thought we were diverse. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think that the people I have met who are involved in electro-music are extremly diverse and don't hold to any real stereotype like you might find in metal, emo, country, classical, goth, etc.

I have met old, young, male, female, fat, skinny, spiritual, non-spiritual, right wing, left wing, trendy, trendless, leaders, follows, straight, gay, bi, etc.

I don't think that any one group has a struggle per say but that we all as a music genre have a struggle getting our music out there in a way for the mainstream listener to hear and notice.



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I ride motorcycles as well but not while making music.....yet.


You should work on that. I'm sure the throttle and clutch can be adapted. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: diversity? I thought we were diverse. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

XpanderXT wrote:
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arrow http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emo

is that so Question

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: diversity? I thought we were diverse. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

speaking of diversification ? well i'm sure most (if not all) of the members of this forum can produce music ,.... i dont think they would be here otherwise. though, there are some members possibly just checking the forum out on a read by page basis, theres nothing wrong with that at all,..... but you know i'm wondering just what it take to build/establish a decent standing in this forum?

diversity...? hmmm = http://nthlogikmedia.ej.am/discog.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The OP in this thread is very telling. In fact, the title is exactly the sentiment that drives me up the wall and made me suggest starting this forum --- the notion that diversity is this place that we've already arrived at, and that the only reason you could possibly be interested in talking about it, is if you think we're not diverse enough and you want someone to fix it for you.

Yes, we're diverse. Is that a good reason NOT to have a forum about it?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm not against a forum for it.
I just think we are already a diverse group of people so having a forum for diversity in electro-music doesn't describe it too well.
Maybe a better forum name that would better identify the concept would be
"Specificity in electro-music" if it supposed to be about discussing specific groups within our diverse community?

Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bbinkovitz wrote:
The OP in this thread is very telling. In fact, the title is exactly the sentiment that drives me up the wall and made me suggest starting this forum --- the notion that diversity is this place that we've already arrived at, and that the only reason you could possibly be interested in talking about it, is if you think we're not diverse enough and you want someone to fix it for you.

Yes, we're diverse. Is that a good reason NOT to have a forum about it?


By this reasoning we also need sections on hair-grooming and walking since most of us have hair and walk.

I'm also getting the impression "diversity" is treated from a perspective of being "different" compared to a completely arbitrary and largely imaginary sense of "normality". I still believe that treating "diversity" in this way, by literally creating a *section* for it, reinforces this cultural construct, however well intended.

As I said before; women aren't a "minority", they in fact outnumber men significantly, except maybe in China and though it may sound Latin nobody in ancient Rome would have the slightest idea what we mean by "hetro-sexual".

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I understand where you're coming from, but ignoring it won't make it go away.

BTW I think diversity (of nationality, gender, cultural conditions) is ironically responsible for a lot of the disagreements about diversity. To those living in very tolerant and accepting societies, or those of the "dominant" persuasion, be it sexual, racial, or whatever, it might seem like those of us who consider this a vital discussion are in fact beating a dead horse. We must remember that whether or not the horse is dead is, itself, a matter of perspective.

I understand those who say "I don't see any need for me to discuss this" but to extrapolate that into "and therefore you must be wasting your time by discussing it" is to make a big error.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is the horse actually Schrodinger's Cat?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject:  Suggestion Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You could merge this with "Introduce..." and rename the hybrid "Identity".
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Suggestion Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Carrot Factory wrote:
You could merge this with "Introduce..." and rename the hybrid "Identity".


innovative idea! i would support this if people want to do that.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

To twist a phrase from a movie I enjoyed...

Diversity is as diversity does.

That we manage to come together year after year in peace and instruct each other is a start.

Gene had it right.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am a distinct individual. I enjoy other people who are distinct individuals. I don't enjoy people who surrender their individuality to identify with symbolic groups.

I am not a black ant or a red ant. I am not a color or a religion or a sub-culture. I am me.

The music I make is unique. I love synthesizers because I can play around with buttons and knobs and find new sounds that move me.

P.S. Those of you who think you are members of groups are also distinct individuals, whether you like it or not.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello!

Well, Im intrigued about this section, I dont understand it completely, but Im not against it. And I dont have any right to be against it, im a noob here.
electro-music is indeed very diverse, as the OP wrote.
We have university geeks making pure data patches a whole year, kids making 4x4 techno, not very young guys making 4x4 techno : ), modular lovers connecting cables in a endless free form jam, people doing field recordings... you know.
People from 10 to 100 years old, anarchists, nazis, hippies, lefties, gays, lesbians, and we, the normal people who give a shit about that hahahahaha. (just a joke).

saludos!

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