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G2 midi cc & morph question
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: G2 midi cc & morph question Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi everyone, I've got a question regarding midi CC messages and the morph groups.

I will be getting a G2 engine, and I currently own some Behringer guitar box with a lot of knobs that can send midi CC #12-19. Now if I look in the software and assign a midi CC to a morph group, CC # 14-19 cannot be assigned because they miss in this list.
I noticed in the midi send and receive modules that these CC#'s are available. Can I reroute the CC#14-19 with a pair of midi modules and still control the morph groups with the rerouted midi CC#, or does it just forward the new (usable) midi CC # to the midi out?

Any ideas? I was really hoping to use these knobs for all-purpose knobturning, but this seems to be a really strange coincidence with these non-compatible CC#'s.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks like to me, the MIDI assign doen't work for CCs 11, 17 and 18. I'm not sure where you got 14 - 19.

Anyhow, I did set up a patch where the G2 will receive a CC signal on one of those "inaccessable" CCs, in this case 17, with the MIDI control receive module and I was able to remap it to an appropriate CC, like 22, which can be assigned to a morph group.

On my Doepfer Pocket Control I can sweep this oscillator through it's entire audible range with a knob programed to CC 17 and morph group 1 via this patch.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the reply. The missing #'s 14-19 might be due to the fact that I did the assign procedure on a computer that was not attached to a G2? But in the list after 'morphgroup-->right-click-->assign midi cc (or something like that) I miss the entries 14-19 in the selectable list, they are just not there.

But I'm very glad the workaround also works, so there's no problem whatsoever.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

*just checking*: in the 'dialog' window where one can select the midi CC, these numbers are available in the v1.10 editor without an attached G2:

2, 3, 4, 8, 10, 12, 13, 20, 21, 22, etc (the rest is pretty much complete up till 127 with just a few obvious ones missing)

Is this different in a 'connected' editor?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I should have mentioned, I'm using a beta version of the editor, so there are probably differences. Anyway, you are right, "there's no problem whatsoever. "
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

CC's 14-19 are missing in the assign, editor version 1.1, engine connected or not. If you have your controller attached to the pc like I have, you could also consider using a progam like http://www.midiox.com/, which has a 'MIDI data mapping transform' dialog, or indeed your favorite sequencer, which probably has some similar function.
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