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Are they entering Blofeld territory?
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interessting....
Another new product, that's quick!
and additional information on updates of current, red products...
I'm curious! |
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| mother misty wrote: | | ... Another new product, that's quick!... |
Well, just because it's a 'quick' release it has to be something that's already there. What was the thing before the wave? The C1 organ, made out of the Stage... So two possibilities: a 88 keys piano or a simple synth 
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Or maybe the new G3 ? 
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| Wout Blommers wrote: | Well, just because it's a 'quick' release it has to be something that's already there. What was the thing before the wave? The C1 organ, made out of the Stage... So two possibilities: a 88 keys piano or a simple synth
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I know, I've had the same feeling when i was reading that scoop but i find it hard to believe that it will be another piano or a simple synth.
A wave rack maybe? |
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Is that pic @ gearjunkies a preview?
If so, it can't be a wave rack, lol
But seriously... that thing looks huge! |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:08 am Post subject:
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If the picture has something to do with the new product, I find it rather strange. Check out the keys...
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Even if they were inverted, those curved keys are far from similar to my G2 keyboard ones!
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The lay out is a normal NordLead2(X), only the keys are reversed. Uh... 2008? A special NordLead2 10 years anniversary Edition
It all is about the picture at the left. It's rather large, as large as the Stage 88 and it has a cloth wrapped around it. I'm sure there isn't just one instrument underneath it, so it's also designed to be used with something else.
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G2 desktop! G2 desktop!  |
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I have my doubts about whether or not the veiled item in that left-hand pic has anything whatsoever to do with the announcement... but, if it does, I'd guess another organ/piano product, or, if I really let my imagination run wild...
...a real, honest-to-god, physical, patchable modular synth (or semi-modular at the very least).  |
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I would be happy to have a 16 part multitimbric Nord Wave desktop, even if it had only 16 mono voices and shared effects for all parts (selectable). Ideal for my studio! Then I could do anything with my Nord arsenal.
It's the perfect sample reproduction machine for me. I don't like any software sampler and the hardware ones are too... all the same.
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| dorremifasol wrote: |
It's the perfect sample reproduction machine for me. I don't like any software sampler and the hardware ones are too... all the same. |
Could you go into a bit more depth about hardware samplers and your issues with them? Particularly how the Wave addresses those? I've got three hardware samplers (and would like to get a few more if the price was right) exactly because they are very different....
The Wave doesn't even have a rack model out and only has two outputs, unless I'm missing something a 100bucks would get you a 90's sampler that knocks it around the block?
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| Ever considered a Kurzweil K2600? |
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| Kassen wrote: | | ... a 90's sampler that knocks it around the block? |
Which gives also the answer to the question: "Why are Clavia synths red?"
Yes, it doesn't show...
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| Quote: | | Could you go into a bit more depth about hardware samplers and your issues with them? Particularly how the Wave addresses those? |
Well, the main point is Flash ram.
| Quote: | | Ever considered a Kurzweil K2600? |
Yes, an incredible machine but has no Flash RAM.
The idea of editing the samples using the PC and sending them through USB to the machine to stay forever in it is very appealing to me. The Motif XS works this way through an ethernet connection, but there is no rack model of it, and I'm sure that the future XS rack model will not have the sampler included.
Additionally, the Nord Wave has a way to interact with the sample data not found in any other machine, it goes beyond the sampler experience.
Moreover, what I love about Clavia is the user interfaces. Just tweak and hear, no menus. That inspires me and that's why I own 3 different Nords and I play them more than any other machine in my studio.
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| Wout Blommers wrote: | Which gives also the answer to the question: "Why are Clavia synths red?"
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I don't really understand what you are saying here. If you look at the Wave's spec list Clavia advertises features like the ability to modulate the sample's start point and the use of the modwheel to modulate the filter.... Everything has had those features since the stone age.
In terms of features and comparing it to my own samplers I think it sits somewhere between being more advanced then the Akai S612 but nowhere near a Roland S550 and both of those are around a 100 bucks these days.
Are you saying a sampler that doesn't even have it's own inputs for sampling is worth 4 figures just because it's red? To me the Wave looks downright depressing as a product in 2008, just consider how long ago the SK1 was released as a toy and how little this really offers beyond the SK1, compared to all those years.
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| dorremifasol wrote: |
Well, the main point is Flash ram.
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If that's the main thing... I do think you can add flash drives to many samplers that have a IDE port.
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The idea of editing the samples using the PC and sending them through USB to the machine to stay forever in it is very appealing to me. |
I thought about that but I like the way the S550 deals with this much better. Because it has it's own mouse and can use a TV you're not locked into using using a MS/Apple OS.... or a computer at all. Where will Clavia's driver support be once the Wave is as old as the S550 is now?
| Quote: | Additionally, the Nord Wave has a way to interact with the sample data not found in any other machine, it goes beyond the sampler experience.
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What is this way?
| Quote: | | Moreover, what I love about Clavia is the user interfaces. Just tweak and hear, no menus. That inspires me and that's why I own 3 different Nords and I play them more than any other machine in my studio. |
That's a plus-point indeed but I'm not sure I'd like to perform operations like setting loop points without a menu. The S612 gets away with that but only because it will only support very short and low-resolution samples so the lack of resolution in the sliders doesn't matter that much. I think that might be the first and last sampler to get away with a menu-less interface for dealing with loop points.
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| dorremifasol wrote: | | Quote: | | Ever considered a Kurzweil K2600? |
Yes, an incredible machine but has no Flash RAM. |
Well, they support smart media cards, which is very fast and easy. FYI: The Nord Wave takes quite some seconds to start up too (decompressing those samples I guess -although patch changes take quite some time too. Weird  ...). The AKAI MPC1000 I'm currently borrowing is just as fast when loading from the smart media card at startup
The Nord Wave is fun and great to use live (I got one for the conservatory where I teach). However, it's quite limited synthesis-wise. Even my old rusty Yamaha SY99 totally blows it out of water in that respect. The SY99 has DX-FM and (optional) flash-RAM sample memory, and samples can freely be routed as modulators to any operator of the DX-FM-structure, which in turn can also be routed back to the filters of the sample playback section, creating whacky feedback structures. |
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I have checked the FIVE manuals available in yamahasynth.com about the SY99. It really seem to be a very capable synthesizer!
I wonder when did Yamaha decide to stop creating innovative synthesizers (EX5, SY99, AN1X)...
Maybe I should check some of the older samplers, perhaps there is one that meets my requirements for a surprisingly low price 
Thanks for the tip!
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The keys in the pic rule out any desktop/module only, non-keyboard possibility - so no Nord Micromodular G2 or Nord Wave Rack.
I'm guessing yet another variation of the Nord Stage/Electro.
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