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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24079 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject:
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I got me a new laptop recently with Vista on it, and although I do have an upgrade option to XP I decided to give vista a try for a good while at least. I just installed vista for the 3rd time as on the previous installs I had optimized away a bit too much (and have considered sending the laptop back to Toshiba ... filled up up with semtex)
Anyway, I think that I now have a reasonably stripped down version, and started installing old software on it. Not much yet for music, just cool edit 2.01 and that seems to work OK without any special needs. But I also installed some other non-music stuff that did have issues that cost me quite some time to sort it out.
One of the next things to try for me is the Clavia beta for the G2, and the NM Classic. I'll report on those later.
I'd be interested to read here about how others fare with vista and special tricks they needed to get their old or new software working.
One issue that might hurt a lot of software is the lack of win32help on Vista, that can be downloaded here
The security stuff in vista currently is the thing that gives me most headaches .. I crippled a lot of it by running as an administrator always (which is the default ) and claiming ownership of quite some folders that by default are owned by the system. I found the User Access Control feature of Vista to be useless, and disabled it. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24079 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject:
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Update.
The NM Classic runs fine for me with the Clavia 3.03 editor and an Edirol UM-3ex MIDI interface. Nomad as of yet doesn't like the config very much, it won't connect to the synth.
The G2 using the Clavia beta is fine.
The debug environment for Nomad works ok, meaning that the Eclipse IDE runs OK.
More and more I get the idea that I need more mouse/kbd actions in vista as compared to xp. Not in applications but in the graphic shell and the system stuff, its a nagging bitch at times. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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BobTheDog
Joined: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 4044 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:05 am Post subject:
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Hi Jan,
Well I gave up with Vista 64 for music, too many issues with drivers especially firewire problems, I am now using osx.
Still use it for development work though, the filesystem cacheing seems much better than XP to me so I get decreased build times which is always nice.
Not sure about the extra mouse/kbd actions, I have mine setup like XP really so do not notice much difference, the new file explorer took a bit of getting used to but now I prefer it to the XP version.
Overall for day to day working I much prefer Vista 64 to XP.
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blue hell
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:16 am Post subject:
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BobTheDog wrote: | I have mine setup like XP really |
Like the win98 looks emulation from win XP I assume (anyway, that's what I did).
The extra actions are when I want to search or when I want to change something through the control panel, stuff like tat, then almost everything seems one or two steps further away than it used to be. At first all the new dialogs seemed helpful, but it's just more clumsy and the built in help knows nothing, it just all the time asks me if I'm happy
I'm trying with vista 32 BTW, wouldn't dare to go 64 fttb.
I still have some annoyances, like auto vertical scrolling in tree views and soft scroll while I have turned that off ... The xp annoyance of it always showing thumbnails for certain folders has been fixed in vista btw, even in the file open/save dialogs it's ok now. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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MrHope
Joined: Apr 06, 2007 Posts: 20 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject:
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I went straight from Windows 98 SE to Vista (skipping XP) on a new computer. Most everything from my 98 SE computer can be run on Vista with the compatibility modes, when installed correctly (often in compatibility modes too).
However, I am having troubles getting the new Vista computer to stop doing background tasks such as automatic restore point creation. It's a real pain because it causes glitching during audio. So far, I have learned to let the computer be idle for a while after login. While it's "idle", it does all of it's dumb work and then finally finishes up. After it's done, I can run my audio programs, but it's a pain not knowing which processes to permanently kill and how.
The new computer has componnets only made for Vista, so I'm not risking changing to XP. Hopefully, I will eventually assuming that I can still activate XP. Vista is just too busy doing nonsense things when I need it for audio.
It hasn't stopped me from making music, but it is actually less reliable than my specially tweaked Windows 98 SE system. |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Joined: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 4761 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:41 am Post subject:
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Check out the tweak guide for Vista.
http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html
This guy does heaps of research working out how to "fix" MS OSs and specifically goes after useless stuff which runs in the background hogging resources. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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