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ian-s
Joined: Apr 01, 2004 Posts: 2669 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Fozzie
Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 875 Location: Near Wageningen, the Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:21 pm Post subject:
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Cool, Ian! Thanks for thinking along with me. It seems that with two minor mods, the patch works better with my bass: I've attached the period output of the pitch tracker to the zerocounter, and indeed a little compression does make a difference.
I guess the pitch bends are not possible using the note send modules, as pitch is detected at one timepoint. Jan Punter adviced to use midi cc send modules to transmit the note value and not be restricted by a gate signal. This does seem like a good idea, but the downside would be that the controlled patch would have to be rewired again, to get rid of KBD settings and attach cords to pitch inputs.
I'll post some of my experiments soon, too. I have some ideas of mixing the attack of the real bass signal (with effects if necessary to get the right 'feel') with the decay and release parts of a synth tone. I'll post when finished. Right now, I have to get dressed quickly and go to work. |
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Fozzie
Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 875 Location: Near Wageningen, the Netherlands
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Fozzie
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deknow
Joined: Sep 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: Leominster, MA (USA)
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:50 pm Post subject:
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I guess the pitch bends are not possible using the note send modules, as pitch is detected at one timepoint. Jan Punter adviced to use midi cc send modules to transmit the note value and not be restricted by a gate signal. This does seem like a good idea, but the downside would be that the controlled patch would have to be rewired again, to get rid of KBD settings and attach cords to pitch inputs.
.....hi (my first post here), and a new g2 engine user. i've been thinking about this, and i think midi pitchbend is possible. send the note through a note module (as you suggest), but also, in paralell, send the pitch tracked signal to an oscillator...run another oscillator with the quantized control signal (from the midi out module, or another midi out module), invert one of them, and mix them together...wouldn't the differance be the pitchbend ammount? just send that out on the same midi channel as the midi out as pitchbend data. ...or am i crazy? i won't have time to play with this until wed.
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ian-s
Joined: Apr 01, 2004 Posts: 2669 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:44 am Post subject:
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That’s some good thinking, subtracting a note quantized version of the pitch tracker output from itself to get the pitch bend value.
I don’t think anyone has mentioned that there is no midi pitch bend send module as yet . Let’s hope it appears in a not too distant update. I would use it a lot I think. It's like a CC send but bipolar and 14bit resolution. |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24075 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:10 am Post subject:
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deknow wrote: | .....hi (my first post here) |
Welcome deknow.
The pitch bend extraction you described is a good idea, this trick was used on the NM Classic as well.
For the Classic there were some quirks though with this (because the note quantizer does not perform a mathematically correct modulo operation) and probably some will apply to the G2 as well (as there are good reasons for the note quantizer to behave as it does).
So it will require some fiddling probably but it for sure was possible on the Classic.
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mosc
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Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18195 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:16 am Post subject:
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Welcome, deknow.
Good idea...
As a moderator I edited your post. For some reason, you had "Disable BBCode in thie post" checked, so the color=blue tag didn't work. It's probably more customary to use the "quote" tag for this, but each to his own.
Anyhow, glad to have you here at our forum. |
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