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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Another issue is having actual keys there.. not just a keyboard controller or two. I miss having all these great surfaces there.. all over the place




Hmmm.. since most new digital synths could be called computers with an instrument interface.. i guess virtual and analog gear has kinda fused. i have no problem with that. main point is that it dies the job and well.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, there are two things: user interface, and the computational capability. It's up to the individual to asses the state-of-the-art vs. one's requirements.

For live performance, I personally need more capability than any single or dual processor general purpose CPU. Also, I've yet to see a computer program that can do what a Kyma system can, or emulate an analog synthesizer like a Nord Modular, or make beautiful keyboard sounds like a Kurzweil.

As for the user interface, I'm still waiting for the midi controller of my dreams.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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What is the difference?


Come on Invisibl, have you ever heard of the "furniture factor"? Shocked Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IKEA??? Shocked Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
IKEA??? Shocked Very Happy

IKEA is an IDEA Idea

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK .. right .. damned swedes! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
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What is the difference?


Come on Invisibl, have you ever heard of the "furniture factor"? Shocked Very Happy


um nope. please explain......

Unless you mean its cool to have unusual pieces of kit around, Then yes!!!!! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i'll raise you your
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Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Wink

hehe twisted evil...............

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked Rolling Eyes Idea Exclamation Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

invisibl wrote:

Unless you mean its cool to have unusual pieces of kit around, Then yes!!!!! Very Happy


exactly Rolling Eyes Exclamation Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hehehe. Speaking of furniture factor.

There exists, Next to where I have my studio

a pair of Genelec 1038's (the tri amped version) Which stand about stomach height. In their boxes. Unused.

Next to

A Simmons drum module retro fitted to a 909 drum machine.

Next to

a MX5050 Tape machine.

Every every evey day i walk past these I sigh.

More money than sense?????????????????????????????????

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Every every evey day i walk past these I sigh.

I would kindly ask the owner if he wants me to help him dumping his unused stuff in the garbage and then................... Shocked Idea

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Me too! Me too! Shocked Shocked Very Happy Very Happy Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Too bad New Zealand is a bit far from my ball park
If only I had that damn teletransportation unit we were talking about on another thread (the mayhem one) Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Perhaps we should go for that "black helicopter" thingie instead? But.. instead of going "take me to your leader!" we could do "bring me all your gear!" ???

x-files is a nono.. we are now in for the gear-files...

Idea Idea Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

was there again last night. sigh.

plugged in the 808 the 909/linn combo. sigh.

Realised there was a huge cyclehum coming from one or both units.

NO SIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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invisibl wrote:
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well... I visited your site that is very cool. great job. Maybe I visited it because of your sentence "Justify my existence and visit" but.... well, your existence is justified anyway Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey.. well.. dunno what Freud would say to this.. but.. he actually is going to be a father now.. any day.. talk about existence and justification..!
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good for him: one more justification (if needed) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes The Sig line is Ironic sarcasm. I think. Or not. i think.

Baby due in T minus 11 and counting

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Keep us informed about what happens after launch
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Interesting topic.

I recently acquired an Emu XL-7 Command Station and have been having a lot of fun learning my way around it. It will probably stay in my setup for a long time for its sequencing, internal synth, and MIDI capabilities.

I also have a Nord Micromodular for audio processing and experimental noises.

To complement these, I was planning to use a G2. However I decided to go in a different direction - get a Windows laptop and run Ableton Live on it. One reason is I want to work with audio clips. The other is an interest in microtuning and there are lots of microtunable VST synths for Windows, that will load tuning files in the popular .scl and .tun formats. I plan to look at LinPlug's CronoX and Albino and z3ta+.

As far as I know, there isn't anything like Live in hardware. So that's one point in favor of software. Also there are very few hardware synths left that have decent microtuning capability. The XL-7 is one of them. Unfortunately, Clavia's synths are not.

In my musical future, I think there will always be a potential place for hardware, but most likely in the form of audio processors such as the Frostwave pedals and delay units such as the Line6DL4 and the upcoming Electro-Harmonix EH16 Reissue.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

MusicalGirevik, sounds like a great setup you've got. There is talk, nothing official, that Clavia will make micro-tuning modules for the G2 in due time.

Interesting about your interest in Abelton Live. I'm kinda interested in that to. I've got so much happening, that I don't have time to get into any new music software though.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Mosc,

I realized that I have no place for the G2 (which I bought on impulse) in what I do musically right now and can't think of a role for it. Meanwhile I have a couple of local friends who are Nord Modular experts - who are just dying to get their hands on a G2 and are eminently capable making some magic on one right now. So I feel pretty good about selling it to one of them. It's kinda like having a nice guitar and a friend who happens to be Jimi Hendrix but needs a guitar. Very Happy

I'm not totally ruling out getting another G2 in the future - but I need to keep my GAS under control and identify a concrete need for it in my own musical activities before I buy it again. Embarassed

Another major factor in going towards the laptop/Live solution was watching Squarepusher's amazing show last week. I'd seen lots of laptop musicians before, but it was the first time I'd seen one perform music with a laptop with such tight and complex arrangments and at breakneck speed too yet also be able to switch into improvised Merzbow-like noise at the drop of a hat. He played both his laptop and his bass like real musical instruments. Quite a revelation to me.

I finally recorded my first 19-tone ET sequence pattern in my XL-7. I hope to start recording audio from my XL-7 experiments sometime this week, with my currently rudimentary recording setup (M-Audio Firewire 410, Ableton Live Delta - the version that comes free with the Firewire 410).
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