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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Music has its own geometry Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If this has already been posted I apologize.

http://www.physorg.com/news127659537.html

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

do you want to read this paper?

go ahead Wink

arrow http://www.music.princeton.edu/~dmitri/geometry.pdf

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Interesting. (I wonder how much they got on the grant for this research.)
Sorry, all cynasism asside, I'd rather look at music like than like study .

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
do you want to read this paper?

go ahead Wink

arrow http://www.music.princeton.edu/~dmitri/geometry.pdf


I've put it on my list of things to read the next time I'm bedridden Laughing

I prefer to look at music like this study to experience music like this and to study it like this study study study study study

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ROFL
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sound composition is strongly related to numbers, whether you like it or not.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Music has its own geometry Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bachus wrote:
If this has already been posted I apologize.


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Source: Princeton University
» Next Article in General Science - Mathematics: Mathematician foresees romps for Major League Baseball's American League in 2008


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Music has its own geometry Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bachus wrote:
If this has already been posted I apologize.

http://www.physorg.com/news127659537.html


Interesting!

THX for posting it.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sam_Zen wrote:
Sound composition is strongly related to numbers, whether you like it or not.


Do you make a distinction between sound composition and music composition? And if so what? Just a little unsure what you are saying.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, then there must be unsound composition as well? Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Surely you've unheard "four minutes thirty-three seconds of silence"?!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There have been times I´ve had to check if I had that piece on repeat in my CD player. Those moments are creepy. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

music: organized sound
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

But some music is organized silence Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bachus wrote:
But some music is organized silence Laughing


Right. And I hope those noisy drug crazed engineering students across the street will develop a strong sense of that musicality really fast. Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

"I've got no kick against modern jazz,
Unless they try to play it too darn fast.
And lose the beauty of the melody,
Until they sound just like a symphony."

Chuck Berry

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm trying to understand how all this relates to musical geometry and geometric construction in general, but all I have is a protractor, half a beer, and some fond memories of a woman named Ann. It's OK - the memories are improving with the beer consumption, though I think the protractor has gone out of tune.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Have a couple of more beers and it will be much clearer.

Oh and that usually improves a protractors tuning as well.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll attempt to combine music and geometry.

Prove music controls emotions
1: Music is played
2: Music is heard
3: The people hearing it start arguing about it.
4: The argument heats up, tempers flare.
5: A fight breaks out.
6: The music stops. dunno
7: The fight stops. kiss
8: Everyone returns to their seats and has another beer. beer

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bachus wrote:
Do you make a distinction between sound composition and music composition?

In the electronic environment often yes.
A matter of not using existing musical rules, but other rules, when making a sound-construction.

Making a 'musical' composition is a choice with electronics, not inevitable.

This is at the same time the problem with "2: Music is heard" by Oenyaw.
The interpretation will be made from a musical point of view instead of an electronic point of view.

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Sam_Zen wrote:
This is at the same time the problem with "2: Music is heard" by Oenyaw.
The interpretation will be made from a musical point of view instead of an electronic point of view.


Nyuck Nyuck! I knew you had a sense of humor, Sam_Zen! Hey, this protractor really IS back in tune!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

nice one on that link to the .pdf document! will read it as soon as i'm using a computer that isn't a geriatric mac that crashes browsers every time i right click to download... i suppose it's my fault for buying a 3rd party mouse.

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I'm an old paranoid geezer, so I'm not sure if your comment is biting cynical, or a pleasant confirmation..

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sam_Zen wrote:
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I'm an old paranoid geezer, so I'm not sure if your comment is biting cynical, or a pleasant confirmation..


Oh, Sam_Zen, Oenyaw was joking and you referred to his joke, so I naturally thought you were joking. So in response I made another joke. I'm paranoid too, so I can understand your sensitivity, just give your paranoia a rest and have a laugh! It's good for you! No offense indented by the joke, it's just good to see people's lighter side.

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