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hopelessennui
Joined: Mar 23, 2008 Posts: 17 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:46 am Post subject:
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Hello all!
I had a couple questions about the CGS66 PSU.
When i bought it i thought it i thought it was like the MFOS psu where you just use an AC wall wart adapter, but in the directions Ken talks about using a center tapped transformer. Its a bit over my head. I tried finding a center tapped transformer on mouser and got lost. Can someone point me in the right direction, or even better a link to the right one? Also how would I wire the transformer to the AC mains?
Ken mentions "where possible use a wall wart"
Can i use a wall wart instead?
Thanks a million. |
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andrewF

Joined: Dec 29, 2006 Posts: 1176 Location: australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:10 am Post subject:
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Hi
sounds like you will be better off with a 18VAC wallwart for now.
from Ken's page -
"it is possible to use a wall-wart between CT (the 0V connection on the PCB) and one 18V AC connection. The required pads are marked with large white circles. The result will be half wave rectification. If you use larger caps (3300uf) and limit the loading, you will be okay." |
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hopelessennui
Joined: Mar 23, 2008 Posts: 17 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject:
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is half wave retification bad? any idea of how much load it could handle? or how many mA wall wart i should use?
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otherunicorn

Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 136 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject:
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Full wave is better than half wave, but that doesn't mean half wave is "bad". You would want a wall wart with at least 700ma. The higher the better. If you can find a 1A or a 1.2A, all the better. _________________ http://www.cgs.synth.net/ |
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Kartoshka

Joined: Jan 13, 2008 Posts: 28 Location: Toronto, Canada
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otherunicorn

Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 136 Location: Australia
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zthee

Joined: Feb 20, 2008 Posts: 414 Location: Stockholm
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otherunicorn

Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 136 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject:
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zthee wrote: | You might wanna flip that capacitor; as it says on the CGS website "The 10uF capacitor beside the -15V pin of the 4 pin MOTM style connector is also shown on the overlay backwards."
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And rather annoyingly it is still backwards on the REV1.1 board.... _________________ http://www.cgs.synth.net/ |
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Kartoshka

Joined: Jan 13, 2008 Posts: 28 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:57 am Post subject:
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true, how could i miss that. thanks guys again. |
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Tronato
Joined: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 274 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject:
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Hello!
Ken mentions that he cut a track and I can see that he did. However he also mentions that a link has to be added right next to the cut that is indicated by a black marker line.
Did you add that link?
Thanks!
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otherunicorn

Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 136 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:43 am Post subject:
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Tronato wrote: | Hello!
Ken mentions that he cut a track and I can see that he did. However he also mentions that a link has to be added right next to the cut that is indicated by a black marker line.
Did you add that link?
Thanks!
TRON |
That is only for the first version. _________________ http://www.cgs.synth.net/ |
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Tronato
Joined: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 274 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject:
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Hello!
Any good electronic practice requires protecting your equipment... so where should I install fuses for the CGS66 and which should their value be?
I am feeding it with a 117V/36VAC CT 2 Amp transformer... actually a Stancor P-8672...
Oh... and are the LEDs absolutely necessary?
Thanks!
TRON |
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andrewF

Joined: Dec 29, 2006 Posts: 1176 Location: australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject:
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It is important to have a fuse on the 115V side of your transformer, this is for your personal safety. A fast-blow 0.5A should be fine.
Some designs also put fuses on the DC rails at the output of the regulators, others have fuses between the diode bridge and the regulators.
Have a google for images "regulated power supply", you should see lots of examples.
You don't need the leds and 1k resistors, but they don't cost much and will always let you know if the PSU is switched on and operating properly.
Make sure all the 115V wiring is securely clamped down so it can never be pulled loose. Another good safety technique is, once everything is working properly, drown all the 115V solder connections in silastic/sealant goo, so nothing can touch them and it helps hold all the wiring in place. |
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Tronato
Joined: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 274 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:
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Hello!
Thanks AndrewF!
TRON |
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otherunicorn

Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 136 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject:
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If you ever intent to power your supply without a load attached, for testing etc., the LEDs do become necessary. The provide the minimum load needed to make the regulators function.
If you don't want the LEDs, install the resistors, and put jumpers where the LEDs go so the minimum load remains. _________________ http://www.cgs.synth.net/ |
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Tronato
Joined: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 274 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject:
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Hello!
So how should the LEDs be installed here?
The PC Board has a small triangle where the LEDs should be insatalled... does the long leg of the LED go in the base of the triangle?
Thanks!
TRON |
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Luka

Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.
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Tronato
Joined: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 274 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject:
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Hello!
I am feeding 20VAC into the CGS66 from a supposedly 120/36VAC CT transformer, no load, leds light as expected but after adjusting the trimmers the maximum that is being output is (+/-) 12.75VDC.
Isn't it supposed to be (+/-) 15 VDC at least?
Thanks!
TRON |
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