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seraph
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:32 am Post subject:
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Neutral Steel is a song for lap steel guitar and drums. It reminds me of the style of Ry Cooder or Bill Frisell but with a twist: the tuning of the guitar is based on the Wyshnegradsky's scale with neutral thirds.
Listen to Neutral Steel
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blue hell
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:49 am Post subject:
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Nice one Carlo, also followed the link to the neutral vocoder song (had not heard it before) funny how the scale seem to work different in both songs ... anyway, I liked both! _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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xjscott
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:10 am Post subject:
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Good piece. It's really nice to hear the expressive use of bends combined with new tunings.
And it sure doesn't sound like Wyshnegradsky!! |
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seraph
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject:
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xjscott wrote: | It's really nice to hear the expressive use of bends combined with new tunings. |
Thanks guys
The selective bending to simulate a string instrument is an old trick I devised in the '90s: I assign the same instrument to 2 midi channels so that it's possible to bend a few notes without bending other ones
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seraph
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:12 pm Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: | ...also followed the link to the neutral vocoder song (had not heard it before)... |
Jan
check out your comment on that one
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blue hell
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject:
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I'm getting old I forgot ... _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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seraph
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: | I'm getting old |
I know it's not really comforting but you are not the only one _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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xjscott
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject:
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seraph wrote: | The selective bending to simulate a string instrument is an old trick I devised in the '90s to bend a few notes without bending other ones |
Oh, you know I thought you were just using LMSO to do that automatically. |
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seraph
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:06 am Post subject:
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xjscott wrote: | seraph wrote: | The selective bending to simulate a string instrument is an old trick I devised in the '90s to bend a few notes without bending other ones |
Oh, you know I thought you were just using LMSO to do that automatically. |
holy cow you are right but the instrument I'm using is Spectrasonics Omnisphere that, as you know, loads .tun files so it is not very dynamic and, believe me, building something like 8 mono instruments to use with NuScale is more taxing, for my laptop, than using 2 poly instruments retuned with .tun files. _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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xjscott
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject:
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But Carlo, Omnisphere is 8 part multitimbral! You don't have to do all that fancy stuff, just one instance will handle it fine. Unless there's something I'm missing. (Probably so, I bet there is a non-disableable full reverb running separately on each channel and throttling the CPU rather than a sensible instrument design with send busses?)
BTW, drives me nuts how many other plugins are not multitimbral, there's no excuse for that, it's just lazy to leave that out.
(This is all theoretical by the way, the piece sounded great so clearly there was no reason to do it any other way.) |
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seraph
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xjscott
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject:
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The way you are doing it is the best way for what you are doing.
I am just gear-talking at this point, idle conversation...
Omnisphere screen shot VERY helpful and interesting - it has the aux sends there presumably to the fx channels, so only one reverb is needed for all 8 multitimbral instances. YES. That is the correct way to build a synth. Not so many softsynths get this basic stuff right. No matter how fast someone's computer is, running a whole bunch of identical reverbs is never as good for the CPU as running just one. I like that interface with the rack on one tab and the individual instruments each on their own. |
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seraph
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:51 am Post subject:
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Spectrasonics yesterday released an Omnisphere upgrade.
Last night I was listening to some of the many new available sounds. Some of them are really a blast. Really inspiring _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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DrJustice
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject:
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I really enjoyed that - Bravo Carlo!
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seraph
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject:
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DrJustice wrote: | I really enjoyed that - Bravo Carlo!
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Grazie DJ
btw how come your cats have Italian names (Enzo and Dario)
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject:
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seraph wrote: |
btw how come your cats have Italian names (Enzo and Dario)
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They're named after Enzo Ferrari and Dario Fo.
The alternative might have been to name them after Per Kohl-Larsen and Henrik Ibsen, perhaps...
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seraph
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:14 am Post subject:
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I had never heard of the Troll car.
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Fortunately for Enzo Ferrari, Italy did not have to sell fish to USSR
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