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seraph
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject:
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today I have received this ribbon controller I ordered a few days ago.
this is the first sample I recorded. is'a bit crude but I am just posting it to let you know I am enjoying it.
Listen to ribbonflute _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:03 am Post subject:
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GaryRea wrote: | That was amazing, Carlo! I have to admit, when I saw the photo, I thought I was going to hear some cheesey Theremin-like sounds, so this really blew me away. That's a fairly decent flute sample. Did you use the Ribbonflute to make the percussion track, also, or was that done with another instrument?
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thanks Gary
see this one for more explanations.
The percussion tracks are only a couple of audio samples in loop mode  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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seraph
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:26 am Post subject:
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read this one and following replies  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:08 am Post subject:
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I remember seeing something, years ago, about using ribbons controllers; don't recall where or when, though. So, the technology's really nothing new. I suppose one can order it from anywhere, right? 250 Euros works out to about $351 US. Not too bad, I guess. I've paid more for software synths. This would work perfectly with my current setup, via USB. There's no end to the sounds I could use with it, via VST, either. Cool!
Gary _________________ http://cdbaby.com/cd/garyrea
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:27 am Post subject:
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Nice audio sample, very expressive controller.  _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz |
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:18 am Post subject:
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GaryRea wrote: | the technology's really nothing new |
right
Moog manufactured module 955/956 in the seventies
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:20 am Post subject:
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...then there was the kurzweil Expression Mate
and probably many more... _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:24 am Post subject:
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Inventor wrote: | Nice audio sample, very expressive controller.  |
thanks, Les  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:39 am Post subject:
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Ha! nice once Carlo!
Did you program the scale into the ribbon controller? You used some other controller as well, or is the expression coming from the dynamics of playing only? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:24 am Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: | Ha! nice once Carlo! |
only once  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:33 am Post subject:
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oops ... "one" _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:56 am Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: |
Did you program the scale into the ribbon controller? You used some other controller as well, or is the expression coming from the dynamics of playing only? |
Jan
the surface of the ribbon controller is quantized to "major scale" but the scale is loaded with the flute sample (Spectrasonics Omnisphere).
the dynamics is all coming from playing: pressure, in this case, is assigned to control (open/close) the filter.
the ribbon does not send midi velocity. _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:06 am Post subject:
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Ah ... it does pressure, great! Wondered if you had maybe used a breath controller for that, but no need then. _________________ Jan
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:30 am Post subject:
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seraph wrote: | Blue Hell wrote: |
Did you program the scale into the ribbon controller? You used some other controller as well, or is the expression coming from the dynamics of playing only? |
Jan
the surface of the ribbon controller is quantized to "major scale" but the scale is loaded with the flute sample (Spectrasonics Omnisphere).
the dynamics is all coming from playing: pressure, in this case, is assigned to control (open/close) the filter.
the ribbon does not send midi velocity. |
So, the scale is a function of whatever sample or VSTi you're using, then.
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:38 am Post subject:
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GaryRea wrote: |
So, the scale is a function of whatever sample or VSTi you're using, then.
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excerpts from (downloadable) manual
Doepfer wrote: | Several quantization tables are available and can be chosen in this menu:
12 tone all 12 semitones of an octave are generated
Major only the tones of the major scale are generated
Minor only the tones of the minor scale are generated
Quart only fundamental and quart
Quint only fundamental and quint
MajorCh only the tones of the major chord are generated
MinorCh only the tones of the minor chord are generated
Quart6 only fundamental, quart and sixth
Quint6 only fundamental, quint and sixth
MajCh6 only the tones of the major chord and the sixth are generated
MinCh6 only the tones of the minor chord and the sixth are generated
Quart7 only fundamental, quart and seventh
Quint7 only fundamental, quint and seventh
MajCh7 only the tones of the major chord and the seventh are generated
MinCh7 only the tones of the minor chord and the seventh are generated |
quart=fourth
quint=fifth
Doepfer wrote: | ...a parameter determines the number of octaves (1 - 5) that correspond to the full
range (~ 50cm) of the position sensor. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject:
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R2M and CC#1
How to create timbral variety with CC#1 using a R2M as note generator.
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject:
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Wow, that kicks ass.
Maybe the first synthesized sax I've heard that didn't suck, this sounds pretty convincing.
Clearly this ribbon controller allows a much finer, and perhaps more intuitive, level of inflection control than is possible with pitch levers. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject:
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xjscott wrote: | Wow, that kicks ass.
Maybe the first synthesized sax I've heard that didn't suck, this sounds pretty convincing.
Clearly this ribbon controller allows a much finer, and perhaps more intuitive, level of inflection control than is possible with pitch levers. |
thanks Jeff
well, the ribbon controller has 2 sensors (position and pressure) plus, you can choose the range of midi notes it generates and other parameters are programmable: pitch quantization, pitch bend amount, transposition etc.
The soprano sax sound is still a sample but the slight pitch variations that are introduced, thanks to the ribbon controller, makes it more convincing. _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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