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Is your room lime with a pink ceiling? Or, is that just funny colors from the camera? _________________ --Howard
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:53 am Post subject:
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:17 am Post subject:
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Some competition or display of sorts.. a Catalan thing i guess. There are teams doing this all around Barcelona.
I wonder when and how they figured out that giving the kids helmets would be a smart thing? Probably after more than a few accidents?
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The cemetery outside Portbou. And yes.. you can also see the Walter Benjamin memorial - the brownish channel thing in the lower right corner of the picture. It´s called "Passages" and was made by the Israeli sculptor Dani Karavan.
More about Walter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Benjamin
| Quote: | Benjamin committed suicide in Portbou at the Spanish-French border, while attempting to escape from the Nazis. The party he was with were told they would be denied passage across the border, which would have been a step towards freedom (Benjamin's ultimate goal was the United States). While staying in the Hotel de Francia, he apparently took some morphine pills and died on the night of 27/28 September 1940.[6][7] The fact that he was buried in the consecrated section of a Roman Catholic cemetery would indicate that his death was not announced as a suicide. The other persons in his party were allowed passage the next day, and safely reached Lisbon on 30 September. A manuscript copy of Benjamin's "On the Concept of History" was passed to Adorno by Hannah Arendt, who crossed the French-Spanish border at Portbou a few months later, and was subsequently published by the Institute for Social Research (temporarily relocated in New York) in 1942.
A completed manuscript which Benjamin had carried in his suitcase disappeared after his death and has not been recovered. Some critics speculate that it was his Arcades Project in a final form; this is very unlikely as the author's plans for the work had changed in the wake of Adorno's criticisms in 1938, and it seems clear that the work was flowing over its containing limits in his last years. As the last finished piece of work we have from Benjamin, the Theses on the Philosophy of History (noted above) is often cited; Adorno claimed this had been written in the spring of 1940, weeks before the Germans invaded France. While this is not completely certain, it is clearly one of his last works, and the final paragraph, about the Jewish quest for the Messiah provides a harrowing final point to Benjamin's work, with its themes of culture, destruction, Jewish heritage and the fight between humanity and nihilism. He brings up the interdiction, in some varieties of Judaism, to try to determine the year when the Messiah would come into the world, and points out that this did not make Jews indifferent to the future "for every second of time was the strait gate through which the Messiah might enter." |
BTW, Portbou downtown is dominated by a railroad station and a church.
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject:
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| elektro80 wrote: | The cemetary outside Portbou. And yes.. you can also the Walter Benjamin memorial..
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Beautiful zoomed (I azoom) picture! Looks like a painting...
Edit: I'm talking about the upper photo...
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| Antimon wrote: | | elektro80 wrote: | The cemetery outside Portbou. And yes.. you can also see the Walter Benjamin memorial..
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Beautiful zoomed (I azoom) picture! Looks like a painting...
Edit: I'm talking about the upper photo...
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Right.. seems like I possibly should say some more about Walter Benjamin.
This is the same guy who wrote the famous "Das Kunstwerk im Zeitalter seiner technischen Reproduzierbarkeit" essay in 1935. Non-europeans might know this text as: The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction.
The full text in english can be found at http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
The text is quite interesting. As for the marxist connection, well.. marxism in various flavors was the beatnik flower power song and dance anti-establishment routine of the 1930s.
Among the many gems found in the essay, his 1935 insights on the dadaists vs. modern stuff like movies are quite revealing and entertaining.
| Quote: | Every fundamentally new, pioneering creation of demands will carry beyond its goal. Dadaism did so to the extent that it sacrificed the market values which are so characteristic of the film in favor of higher ambitions – though of course it was not conscious of such intentions as here described. The Dadaists attached much less importance to the sales value of their work than to its usefulness for contemplative immersion. The studied degradation of their material was not the least of their means to achieve this uselessness. Their poems are “word salad” containing obscenities and every imaginable waste product of language. The same is true of their paintings, on which they mounted buttons and tickets. What they intended and achieved was a relentless destruction of the aura of their creations, which they branded as reproductions with the very means of production. Before a painting of Arp’s or a poem by August Stramm it is impossible to take time for contemplation and evaluation as one would before a canvas of Derain’s or a poem by Rilke. In the decline of middle-class society, contemplation became a school for asocial behavior; it was countered by distraction as a variant of social conduct. Dadaistic activities actually assured a rather vehement distraction by making works of art the center of scandal. One requirement was foremost: to outrage the public.
From an alluring appearance or persuasive structure of sound the work of art of the Dadaists became an instrument of ballistics. It hit the spectator like a bullet, it happened to him, thus acquiring a tactile quality. It promoted a demand for the film, the distracting element of which is also primarily tactile, being based on changes of place and focus which periodically assail the spectator. Let us compare the screen on which a film unfolds with the canvas of a painting. The painting invites the spectator to contemplation; before it the spectator can abandon himself to his associations. Before the movie frame he cannot do so. No sooner has his eye grasped a scene than it is already changed. It cannot be arrested. Duhamel, who detests the film and knows nothing of its significance, though something of its structure, notes this circumstance as follows: “I can no longer think what I want to think. My thoughts have been replaced by moving images.” The spectator’s process of association in view of these images is indeed interrupted by their constant, sudden change. This constitutes the shock effect of the film, which, like all shocks, should be cushioned by heightened presence of mind. By means of its technical structure, the film has taken the physical shock effect out of the wrappers in which Dadaism had, as it were, kept it inside the moral shock effect. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:44 am Post subject:
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| elektro80 wrote: | | ... Among the many gems found in the essay, his 1935 insights on the dadaists vs. modern stuff like movies are quite revealing and entertaining. ... | It is, but so is the essay. It has to be seen in a historical perspective, special to the marxist's idea society is create able
A 'must read', even in its limitations.
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Castells.. right! THX. I´ll add that to the meta tags !
So you were actually part of such a team!? That´s awesome! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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| Wout Blommers wrote: | | elektro80 wrote: | | ... Among the many gems found in the essay, his 1935 insights on the dadaists vs. modern stuff like movies are quite revealing and entertaining. ... | It is, but so is the essay. | Indeed. And that is of course as expected, but IMO it is quite an interesting read anyway. A lot of his ideas aren´t as original as some have claimed, but the text still sums up a great 1935 intellectual´s view on the subject matter.
A clearer picture as to what Walter Benjamin considered he was working on can be picked up from Adorno´s letters to him in combination with Benjamin´s own texts.
This section is good ( but it does not comment on the " mech-repro " essay ) - take note of the "living as a leaving of traces".
| Quote: | Hornberg, Black Forest, 2 August 1935
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Today let me try to say something to you at long last about your draft essay, which I have studied very thoroughly and discussed with Felizitas [1] again; she fully shares my response. It seems to me to be in keeping with the importance of the subject—which, as you know, I rate so highly—if I speak with complete candour and proceed without preliminaries to the questions which I may consider equally central for both of us. But I shall preface my critical discussion by saying that even though your method of work means that a sketch and a ‘line of thought’ cannot convey an adequate representation, your draft seems to me full of the most important ideas. Of these I should like to emphasize only the magnificent passage about living as a leaving of traces, the conclusive sentences about the collector, and the liberation of things from the curse of being useful. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:26 am Post subject:
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| Wout Blommers wrote: | ... It has to be seen in a historical perspective, special to the marxist's idea society is create able  |
Kinda ironic that society is now mostly the product of corporate aggrandizement as realized through marketing and various "entertainments." Though in this country talk radio and Fox "News" have breathed new life into the lever of hysterical propaganda as a force for social change.
Electro, thanks for posting both the pictures and the quote. _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:33 am Post subject:
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| bachus wrote: | | Kinda ironic that society is now mostly the product of corporate aggrandizement as realized through marketing and various "entertainments." Though in this country talk radio and Fox "News" have breathed new life into the lever of hysterical propaganda as a force for social change. |
Absolutely. And that is why I tend to digress into the philosophical ramblings of the early 20th century, when the good minds still were aware of a concept called modernity. Outdated texts may still provide chilling illuminations.. ( if you look for them ).
Btw.. Robert.. I love that Bentham quote! Brilliant! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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When talking about the idea society is make able, I didn't mean manipulate able. The possibility to change things doesn't mean they really do change, does it?
I have read Benjamin, although meany years ago, but the sketch he delivered didn't matched todays truth: instead photography and cinematography would release art from its aura of being a higher level of human beings, but film directors like Stephen Spielberg probably could buy all the famous paintings in the world Surely marketing is also due to that...
But still it's highly valuable texts to read and to think about...
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Aha.. right.. so by the "idea society" you mean the utopia promised by say the marxists?
It can be argued that his obsession with marxism partly is rooted in the presumed scientific aspect provided by the marxist dialectic method. ( I should add that the full implications of Marx dialectical materialism is one huge psychedelic sideshow ). Anyways, Walter Benjamin is not first and foremost a marxist philosopher. Instead he is a german, a jew and a modernist thinker. And perhaps more prominent than his blend of marxism are his roots in the german school of idealism. Sure, Hegel is in that pot, and so is Kant.. who pretty much is the Elvis of german idealism.
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The german school of idealism was far from stale, as in the clever, playful and thoughtful argument on consciousness made by Fichte ( The Frank Zappa of German Idealism).
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I wanted to make a photo of sunlight refraction through a crystal (creating nice colorful beams).
Although this didn't work as I wanted to (first photo), I found out taking pictures through the crystal works great
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