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MixTikl, the Koan based generative music app
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:51 am    Post subject: MixTikl, the Koan based generative music app
Subject description: Out now on the iPhone/ Touch!
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Go get it here!

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/artist/intermorphic-ltd/id347409280

(And then someone tell me how the hell to use it!! Shocked Embarassed )

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sweet! Will download tonight after I wrap the packages I probably should have sent a week ago. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I just downloaded the latest version. Wow. I will be reading the manual for a bit, but I'm seeing how it works. This is a pretty good app!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes it's very deep, but like all auto generation apps, you never really get a beginning or an end- just a continuation that meanders and doesn't seem to ever go anywhere! Shocked

A bit like the obiquous Nord Noodle! Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

got the free version, and didn't put enough effort into figuring it out.

If someone can convince me that it's worthwhile i might have another look. generative music is definitely an interest..
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Of course generative music is 'interesting', but by the time you've set up so many rules and scales, you may as well just have written a proper piece of music with your own brain and emotions. Generative music can/does sound very cold and sterile, and the end product is often more appealing to either those who are also interested in generative music, or those who aren't really listening at all! (Muzak).

Of course, this is soley my opinion, but I'm sure that there are others who would agree. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i agree.. but i AM interested in generative music Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good! Laughing Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

v-un-v wrote:
Of course generative music is 'interesting', but by the time you've set up so many rules and scales, you may as well just have written a proper piece of music with your own brain and emotions. Generative music can/does sound very cold and sterile, and the end product is often more appealing to either those who are also interested in generative music, or those who aren't really listening at all! (Muzak).

Of course, this is soley my opinion, but I'm sure that there are others who would agree. Smile


Boy are you in a curmudgenly mood today. Laughing

I set up cell rules to keep objects in a less wandering key, and it looks like it's got ability to structure (sequence) objects, so although I'm not expecting masterpieces, it'll work well enough for what I am looking for.

Even without reading the manual yet, it's understandable.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Even without reading the manual yet, it's understandable.


Personally I can't stand it's interface! I find it totally counter-intuitive!

It must be the way my brain is wired! Wink Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm still wrapping my head around it. I work with it a couple of days then put it down for a couple. The fact that it contains Noatikle is pretty cool. I was messing around with the demos but for me things didn't really start to click until I started from scratch using the Noatikl Seed set.... And I also am not thriiled with the gui......
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I tried this for a while, decided (possibly a bit premature) that it wasn't worth the time, deleted it. I agree with V, it's counterintuitive... But maybe I just needed to spend more time on it.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

... come to think of it, Koans are counterintuitive too, so maybe it all makes sense, then. Or not.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EdisonRex wrote:
v-un-v wrote:
Of course generative music is 'interesting', but by the time you've set up so many rules and scales, you may as well just have written a proper piece of music with your own brain and emotions. Generative music can/does sound very cold and sterile, and the end product is often more appealing to either those who are also interested in generative music, or those who aren't really listening at all! (Muzak).

Of course, this is soley my opinion, but I'm sure that there are others who would agree. Smile


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Yup. Curmudgeon and proud! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mrcold wrote:
got the free version, and didn't put enough effort into figuring it out.

If someone can convince me that it's worthwhile i might have another look. generative music is definitely an interest..


Try NodeBeat. I found it more immediately accessible.

I'll still keep Mixtkl on my iPhone though.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

v-un-v wrote:
Yes it's very deep, but like all auto generation apps, you never really get a beginning or an end- just a continuation that meanders and doesn't seem to ever go anywhere! Shocked

A bit like the obiquous Nord Noodle! Wink


I still love Nord Modular noodles. Cool

Improvising on another instrument in "duets" with auto-gen music can lead to new compositions. That's how I came up with one of my most recent pieces.

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