What are the Clavia people up to?

Fozzie · Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:56 am Post subject: What are the Clavia people up to?

Realizing the speculative character of the discussion that could develop in this thread, I hope the mods tolerate this 'clavia schmooze'.

It has been more than two months since the last bit of significant Clavia news was presented on their website (I don't think the announcement of hairy ancient rockers using red stuff is that big a deal). What are they up to there in the north? Is there any news, gossip, or pseudo-info that can be posted here in this dubious thread to satisfy and/or encourage curiousity?

Anyone?

ffransis · Joined: Jun 24, 2004 Posts: 31

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grimley · Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject:

They're busy working on a Clavia version of the Access TI for the G2. Total integration with a VST host via the USB connection ... no more audio and midi cables, total recall from within host, sample-accurate sync.
OK ... they're probably not, but it would be nice.
-grimley

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject:

This is probaly OT, but here goes..
The new Virus approach is an excellent and an obvious idea. The main point about such an instrument design would of course be to have a standalone hardware thingie that also integrates completely with a DAW. I am pretty sure we will see more of this soon. Clavia has probably already considered this idea. There are many issues of course. It is probably not the right time for a G3 now. I would rather suggest the possibility that a product like the Clavia Electro is more suited to such an "update".
Consider a more powerful Electro with total DAW intergration. This product would probaly sell very well. I am sure there is a huge market for such a product.

Another idea is an effects units based on the architecture of the G2, but with DAW integration. They could keep the editor, but add a way to skin patches. Imagine a patch having a skin that makes it look like a plugin.

Shocked

Just an idea. Who knows, Calvia is probably designing a series of red coffee pots right now..

jksuperstar · Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject:

I don't know how tied up the main processor is in the G2 now, maybe it could handle the shuffle of data to/from the USB port. If anything, I'd bet it's WDM & Mac OSX drivers that would slow/prevent this from happening. Who knows...

Either way, it's the red kitchen sink I'm after...

Tim Kleinert · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:19 am Post subject:

Maybe Clavia is working on a NordLead4... who knows.

Personally, I don't like seeing synths subordinating themselves to computer DAW technology. It should be the other way round.

Computer technology is way more transient than music technology, and I dread the day when I will not be able to patch the G2 because the computer industry has decided to abandon the USB standard.

Remember when SCSI was the thing? Where is it now? A good friend of mine still gets plenty of musical use out of his EMU samplers, but will have to move on to something different soon, as it is becoming increasingly difficult to find SCSI drives. I hate seeing that.

So, that Virus TI ain't anything at all to celebrate in my book.

Clavia -make an autonomous NL4, please! No bells, no whistles, no firewire port...

mosc · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:39 am Post subject:

I don't see it as either/or, but why not have both. You can still get SCSI cards for computers, and RS232 ports. If the new Virus didn't have conventional MIDI and audio I/O, that would be a bad I think. Laughing

Still, think if the G2 had a firewire port and you could get direct access to not only the 4 ins and outs, but to the internal busses as well.

USB-1 wouldn't have enough bandwidth to handle that, but USB-2 could. Firewire could handle it too, but I see that as dying off eventually. There is only need for one serial interface. Firewire has no advantages over USB and USB is more generally used.

jksuperstar · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:28 am Post subject:

I would be happy with just access to the audio & midi I/O. For me, at least, it would suffice for the lack of an S/PDIF port!! USB1 should handle that ok. Especially if it was on a dedicated port.

As for the USB/Firewaire debate, I wish Firewire had won. The standard is far more clear on how devices operate, and absolutely everything I've used with it is 100% stable...video cameras, harddrives, audio I/O. I can't say the same about USB. Eitherway, it would be *appropriate* if only 1 existed. In fact, it be even nicer if they got rid of Serial ATA while they were at it! It seems apple was at least headed in that direction. They've always liked simple serial, one-for-all connectivity whenever they've had the choice.

grimley · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:06 am Post subject:

So does the G2 have have USB 1 or 2?
As for Firewire being more stable than USB ... well that may have been your experience and maybe I'm the oddball, but I had a complete nightmare with Firewire. I went through 2 Firewire interfaces and 2 motherboards trying to get my TC Powercore Firewire and Canon video camera working on my PC. I eventually gave up and went for the PoCo PCI card and still have problems getting my camcorder connected from time to time.
-grimley

mosc · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:18 am Post subject:

AFAIK the G2 is USB-1.

Like you, I've had problems with Firewire as well as USB. Both can get messed up when you put equipment on from different companies.

ffransis · Joined: Jun 24, 2004 Posts: 31

ThreeFingersOfLove · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject:

The G3 is due in December 2008.

Very Happy

jamos · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject:

Personally, I find all this wishlisting for G2 hardware features to be depressing and negative. The instrument is what it is, and it's the best damn synthesizer I've ever laid my hands on. And that's probably true for every one of us.

Fozzie · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:57 pm Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject:

Fozzie · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:08 am Post subject:

It's ok, the OT-smiley is more angry-looking than appropriate for my mood. No problems, no worries Smile

But, now that we're back on topic, Jan does seem to have some inside info. That's what I was after, of course. Some cryptic description, maybe? I guess I better quit using smileys, if I want to lure him into any such thing.

blue hell · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:47 am Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:48 am Post subject:

3phase · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject:

Wout Blommers · Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:13 am Post subject:

Hi,

What surprizes me is the fact this discussion is on almost every Clavia related forum or mailing list. Only the dDrum community is rather quite. I can't imagine the G2 and G2X are already worn out concerning creativity and fun. Or is it just the time of year...?

Wout

Fozzie · Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:21 am Post subject: