load and dump sys-ex.

skyz · Joined: Oct 25, 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Australia

HI
am having alittle trouble understanding SYsex data load and dump.
i use a mac with ableton and have a nord lead 3 rack...
Ableton doesnt deal with sysex data tho!!!

what do you all use on a mac to load and dump sys-ex. files
back up presets and updates???

sorry iv sound stupid! just cant get my head around in yet
cheer for any help

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:28 am Post subject:

I'm not on a Mac, but I heard good critics about this one: http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/docs.html
Download able at http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/docs.html

Wout

skyz · Joined: Oct 25, 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Australia

thanks for you help!..

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:48 am Post subject:

Could be helpfull if you write back about sucses or failure?

Wout

gplusr · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:35 am Post subject:

I bought new NL2X two days ago. I was able to receive patches using Nord Generator but I was not able to upload them to the NL2X. I saw on a small LCD that I am receiving files but all patches were distorted. Maybe some of you know why? After a few hours I have decided to use above program for the mac OSX and everything went ok from the first try Smile

, so Yes it is working with our equipment Smile

Wout Blommers · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:46 am Post subject:

gplusr and thanks

Strange NordGen couldn't send the SysEx. You used a Windows machine?
There is a bug concerning the MidiIn and MidiOut menu options. When MidiIn is set MidiOut will step to another Midi port.

Wout

gplusr · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:26 pm Post subject:

Hello

Yes, I tried with xp sp2 and native instruments audio 8 soundcard. I used this card also on mac. While I was sending sysex to nord I could see that nord is receiving it but all knobs/setting were in the same position. I tried all setting with midi channels on xp but with no luck.

Wout Blommers · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:57 pm Post subject:

Hi,

Some questions…
How did you detect there was Midi send to the synth?
Which SysEx files were used?
Any routing (LEDs on the Panel) changed?
Was the sound changed in any way?
What was distorted?

Knobs don’t change when uploading a new Program into the synth, only the LEDs.

Wout

gplusr · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject:

I could see on the LED for example A.Pr.
I used SysEx file from there http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/020_NordLead2/
Nothing change on the panel and as you described the sound was changed but this sound does not sound as a good patch/new instrument. I will make some movie when I find some free to time to show you how I did it.
I could also notice that the led didnt change, they were in exacly the same position as before so maybe not all data was transfered? Is it possible? Maye I should change the speed somewhere like in COM ports. It is not a big problem for me because it is working on Mac but maybe someone know the solution.

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:23 am Post subject:

gplusr · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:50 am Post subject:

Below you will find the link to the youtube.

1. I choose RESO SWEEP 004.syx
2. I drag the file to the Nord Generator
3. I choose SysEX -> Send

On the Nord

1. I could see that DISPLAY shows A.PR1 for one second.
2. I can hear that the Sound change
3. I dont see that any of the LED changed
4. The sound is not what it meant to be even when I store it in to the memory of Nord.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8dCSORvcTI

When I do this on mac, everything works fine.

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:25 am Post subject:

What I think doesn't look right is the LED of the Pulse wave form doesn't change. It should have gone to Saw... Shocked

But surely I hear the Reso Sweep.
The indication [A.pr1] could be a feature of the NL2X, because I only own a NR original and a NL2. So this feature is new to me. (A third Lead is probably an overkill in my studio Smile

)

Gladly you can work with the synth, but it's still puzzling you and me.
In two weeks I'll meet up with Clavia and will ask them.

Wout

gplusr · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:29 am Post subject:

That is exacly what I want to say. It sounds like it but it is not, I get completly different sound using SysEx on Mac. Thank you Wout Very Happy

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:27 am Post subject:

What?

This will be history!

Very Happy

Wout

gplusr · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:16 am Post subject:

Below you will find the difference

RESO SWEEP 004 NordGen X{.MP3

Description:

RESO SWEEP 004 sent using NordGen on Win XP

Download

Filename:

RESO SWEEP 004 NordGen X{.MP3

Filesize:

258.53 KB

Downloaded:

188 Time(s)

gplusr · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:17 am Post subject:

And RESO SWEEP 004 on Mac

RESO SWEEP 004 SysEx Mac.MP3

Description:

RESO SWEEP 004 uploaded on MAC using SysEx Librarian

Download

Filename:

RESO SWEEP 004 SysEx Mac.MP3

Filesize:

321.23 KB

Downloaded:

222 Time(s)

gplusr · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:18 am Post subject:

Original file

RESO SWEEP 004.syx

Description:

Download

Filename:

RESO SWEEP 004.syx

Filesize:

139 Bytes

Downloaded:

116 Time(s)

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject:

Can you upload the SysEx from the synth?
Yes, you can...

Can you do the following:
1. Send by Windows into the synth and downloaded from the synth.
2. Send by Mac into the synth and downloaded from the synth.

I weant to make a read out of the SysEx. There has to be something changed in the data...

Wout

PS no hurry Smile

gplusr · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject:

Below you will find two files which I have SEND from synth to mac.

First file is a file which I have DOWNLOADED to synth using win xp
Second file is a file which I have DOWNLOADED to synth using mac.

sweep 004 mac.syx

Description:

Download

Filename:

sweep 004 mac.syx

Filesize:

139 Bytes

Downloaded:

125 Time(s)

sweep 004 xp.syx

Description:

Download

Filename:

sweep 004 xp.syx

Filesize:

139 Bytes

Downloaded:

110 Time(s)

Wout Blommers · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject:

Here are some results…

Two read outs of your files. As you can see the end doesn’t contain any data. Compared with the last read out (NordGen received) the blue colored data is the routing, which means the buttons and LED’s.

SysEx down loaded from the internet or already on my computer are exactly the same.
I also think the Synth is alright. For some reason the Windows machine doesn’t take the last line of the SysEx: the routing. Some Midi cables? Too much speed? Hard to tell from here…

Read_Out_SysEx.jpg

Description:

Read Out

Filesize:

486.83 KB

Viewed:

159 Time(s)

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