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LektroiD

Joined: Aug 23, 2008 Posts: 960 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 8:27 am Post subject:
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What are the best transistors to substitute for the LM394? I'd rather match my own than spend the rest of my life sourcing such rarities.
Also would they need to be thermally coupled? If I replace the LM394 with individual transistors, one would be the wrong orientation for thermal coupling. _________________ My tunes available here
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marvkaye
Joined: Mar 14, 2011 Posts: 221 Location: Fla
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject:
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Actually, you can get thermal transfer by twisting both transistors 90 degrees in opposite directions, then leaning them towards each other until their flat faces touch. The picture below is a pair of 2N3904's that I stuck into the same socket that I'd use for an LM394, just to confirm the concept.
They haven't been trimmed yet, nor do they have the thermal body for the tempco. I figured I'd make a teeny aluminum tab that gets epoxied between the flats and sticks up for the tempco(s). In this case, since the tab is rather small, I figured I'd use a pair of 1K SMD's wired in series, glue one to each side of the tab. It should be a pretty nifty package when it's done.
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PS... has anyone started on a MOTM/DotCom panel for this yet? If not I may give it a shot... I came up with a nice one for the MFOS CV/Gate Distributor... I'll post it on the MFOS forum one of these days. Last edited by marvkaye on Thu May 12, 2011 8:54 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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marvkaye
Joined: Mar 14, 2011 Posts: 221 Location: Fla
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject:
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A quick follow-up to my prior post.... here I've trimmed about 3/16" off the leads, got the faces to match up square, and made a little tab out of a piece of aluminum I cut from a pop can with a pair of scissors... it's a bit on the thin side, so I'll probably do the real one with some 15-20 mil stock. The bottom of the flag is cut to a point to match the faces of the transistors. I'm thinking it oughta work like a charm.
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BananaPlug

Joined: Jul 04, 2007 Posts: 302 Location: Philly
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:17 am Post subject:
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| Somewhere in my gear I've seen commercially made S shaped clips for that. |
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marvkaye
Joined: Mar 14, 2011 Posts: 221 Location: Fla
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:00 am Post subject:
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I'm sure somewhere out there someone has come up with a commercial version of this, but 3904's at a nickel apiece just beg for bending, twisting, and lending themselves to a home-brewed solution. This one's mine.
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3613 Location: Germany
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Jojjelito
Joined: Jun 27, 2007 Posts: 49 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject:
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Hi Mattias!
The PCBs arrived in the mail today. Vielen Dank!
Time to heat up the soldering iron...  |
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Captain Biscuits

Joined: Jun 11, 2010 Posts: 112 Location: Northampton, UK
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:47 pm Post subject:
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Many thanks Matthias
A pair of very smart red and silver pcbs arrived in the UK today too.
Looking forward to collecting the bits together and getting them made up soon.
Thanks too for the super quick delivery.
All the best
Ian |
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brother303

Joined: Nov 02, 2010 Posts: 139 Location: ruhr-area/germany
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject:
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Hi Fonik,
just took a quick look on your building docs and some questions came up :
- what`s the function of the connect 1 + 2 trimpots?
- how to adjust the hf-trim?
- how to wire j4 (hard sync)?
Thanks!
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Greg |
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3613 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:28 am Post subject:
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| brother303 wrote: | Hi Fonik,
just took a quick look on your building docs and some questions came up :
- what`s the function of the connect 1 + 2 trimpots? |
all the calibration routines are covered nicely on scotts site:
[url]http://www.birthofasynth.com/Thomas_Henry/Pages/X‐4046.html[/url]
| Quote: | | - how to adjust the hf-trim? | \
the HF trim is to compensate the scale going flat at high frequencies.
i usually start setting the scale for the lower and mid range and leave the HF untouched. then i re-adjust it for the high range.
| Quote: | | - how to wire j4 (hard sync)? |
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matthias
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tehskull
Joined: May 07, 2011 Posts: 23 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:01 am Post subject:
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Hello. Would it be possible to put me down for 2 PCB sets?
Thanks! |
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3613 Location: Germany
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brother303

Joined: Nov 02, 2010 Posts: 139 Location: ruhr-area/germany
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:29 am Post subject:
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Hi Fonik,
thanks for reply,useful as always...
Regarding j4/hardsync : I didn`t realize that a JACK is wired up to j4,always thought of a SWITCH...  _________________ Best regards
Greg |
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emdot_ambient
Joined: Nov 22, 2009 Posts: 669 Location: Frederick, MD
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brother303

Joined: Nov 02, 2010 Posts: 139 Location: ruhr-area/germany
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:59 am Post subject:
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Hi,
| emdot_ambient wrote: |
"A" is for "apple"
"J" is for "jack"
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Greg |
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rosch

Joined: Oct 03, 2009 Posts: 155 Location: germany
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:28 am Post subject:
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they arrived today!
thank you very much for this project! |
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brother303

Joined: Nov 02, 2010 Posts: 139 Location: ruhr-area/germany
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:55 am Post subject:
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Yup,
my pcbs also arrived today.
Cheers! _________________ Best regards
Greg |
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tokyomatik

Joined: Jan 20, 2011 Posts: 103 Location: berlin
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:48 am Post subject:
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hi mattias
i received the pcbs and i have to say you did a great job.
all the connections for pots and jacks are made just to keep the soldering work fast, easy and clear.
thanx a lot |
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adambee7
Joined: Apr 04, 2009 Posts: 420 Location: united kingdom
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject:
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boards arrived. cheers chap.  |
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droffset

Joined: Feb 02, 2009 Posts: 480 Location: new zealand
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kupfer_m
Joined: Oct 14, 2010 Posts: 47 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:27 am Post subject:
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| I received my boards too! |
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arsonus
Joined: Apr 17, 2011 Posts: 14 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:24 am Post subject:
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Boards arrived today!
Thanks a lot!
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LektroiD

Joined: Aug 23, 2008 Posts: 960 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:30 am Post subject:
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The 3904 matched pair looks great, I'll be using these in conjunction with SMD tempcos (2K/3000ppm), hopefully that'll be close enough to the mark.
Also, how essential is R54? The only 1.5MΩ I have is 5%. _________________ My tunes available here
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3613 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:40 am Post subject:
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| LektroiD wrote: | | Also, how essential is R54? The only 1.5MΩ I have is 5%. |
not that essential. actually everyhting should work fine with 5% resistors, even R27...
nevertheless, for the resistors in the sine waveshaper (R10-11, R16-1 i would use 1% resistors. _________________
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matthias
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tokyomatik

Joined: Jan 20, 2011 Posts: 103 Location: berlin
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 9:11 am Post subject:
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i'm searching for some trimmers but i have only 1/2w for the 100ohms
does it make a lot difference or it should be 1/4w? |
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