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anigbrowl
Joined: Jan 21, 2008 Posts: 116 Location: San Francisco, USA
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sovietpop
Joined: Jun 28, 2009 Posts: 21 Location: Quebec
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matrix
Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 81 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:06 am Post subject:
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Make sure it's not actually Windows RT. That price is insanely cheap. Note it says "Take the full power of Windows 8 and Office Home & Student 2013 wherever you go" It implies the full version of Windows 8 but it could just as easily mean the full power of Windows 8 in general and have RT loaded. Are they legally required to specify if it is RT? If you can confirm what it's running let us know. I'd dig further but don't have the time at the moment.
I'm curious if the original Surface Pro will go further down in price now that the Surface Pro 2 is out. If the Dell runs full Windows, I'd also be curious how Absynth and Reaktor run on it. Whatever I end up getting, I think I'd want it to run other synths as well. If it can't run them, $300 for the Dell would essentially be a $300 coupon towards something that could. _________________ cheers,
matrix
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sovietpop
Joined: Jun 28, 2009 Posts: 21 Location: Quebec
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matrix
Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 81 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:11 pm Post subject:
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Wow! I want one. If you end up getting one, post back. I'm curious how much the pen costs or does it come with one? _________________ cheers,
matrix
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matrix
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matrix
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:01 pm Post subject:
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I just tested out the Dell Venue 8 with the Active Stylus from Dell with the Nord editors (1 & 2). Unfortunately it is completely unusable for me, both with the stylus and without. I had an extremely difficult time patching cables, and turning the knobs was not precise enough to be useful for me at all. The knob would continue to turn while holding down the stylus and continue to drift when releasing it. With a finger held down it would also continue to move. It was very difficult to get the knob to hit and then stay at precise settings. Often it would jump to extreme values. The modules on screen were also too small for my taste. I was really hoping this would work, so I am a bit disappointed. If anyone out there has better experiences, please let us know. I picked up the Venue 8 primarily for this reason, so unfortunately I will be sending it back. I'm curious how the Venue 11 might fair, but I think I'll try before buying moving forward. _________________ cheers,
matrix
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matrix
Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 81 Location: USA
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I just went to the Microsoft Store and tried out the Venue 11 and 8 again along with the Surface Pro and Pro 2. Turns out if you set the knobs to rotate rather than vertical or horizontal it responds much better. It was completely usable on all of them including the small screen on the 8 using either my finger or a stylus. Stylus was better as you could see better.
Patching cables was a different story. On the Surface Pro and Pro 2 I was able to patch fine using the stylus. No problems at all. However with my finger I had a difficult time. The reason is you can't see through your finger so it's difficult to pinpoint the end input. On the Venue 11 and 8 I couldn't patch using my finger at all and the only stylus they had that I could try was one of those capacitive ones with a large foamy style head. I could start the patch cable but I couldn't get it to connect, not even once.
At this point I'm going to research capacitive touch pens to see if I can find one with a sharper point. If I can and it works with the Venue 8, I think I'm going to go for it. The Surface Pro and Pro 2 were a bit too big, heavy and pricey for my needs. I mainly plan to use it for the editor and a few VSTs. _________________ cheers,
matrix
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Nodular
Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Milano
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:31 am Post subject:
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matrix wrote: | (cut) ... The knob would continue to turn while holding down the stylus and continue to drift when releasing it. With a finger held down it would also continue to move. It was very difficult to get the knob to hit and then stay at precise settings. Often it would jump to extreme values ... (cut) |
Since the release of the last 64bit drivers from Clavia, I'm using my Fujitsu T900 convertible tablet (Win7 Pro 64bit), equipped with a Wacom pen and capacitive active screen. It's not as small as MS new tablets, but ...
The problem described by matrix doesn't affect knobs. If you set proper scrolling behavior in editor settings (I think it's "rotative"), you can achieve ultra precise value settings on knobs.
You can have some troubles with non rotative controllers, like steps on value sequencers, indeed, as you start dragging the bars, they start travelling and the movement is not linear, it accelerates. For me it's not that big issue, because I usually want to input numeric values in those controllers, and I can very well do it with the pen via both virtual keyboard or handwriting recognition.
Patching cables with the tip of the pen is a pure joy for me. No problems at all. I can even set one of the two buttons on the pen to perform a double click, so also unplug-replug is effortless.
I'm sorry for my poor English. |
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