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Wacky, Zany, Weird (and possibly Odd) Sound Maker Project
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pehr wrote:
Heres a sample of how it sounds... Rolling Eyes


it sounds... it sounds -hmm- just like it should be. congratulations.

i just love the sound of switching off - maybe i should try to ad a relay controlled by simple 555timer LFO to get it even more weird.
or maybe a regular tranny would do the trick - - ill keep you posted when i get something i can show...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sounds good. I'll have to check mine. I don't seem to get that LFO type
sound at all,unless I flip the switch(not power) back and forth. Which pot is the rate for that LFO type sound Pehr. After hearing your something tells me I might have a problem. Mine sounds cool, but its mostly sounds like two osc. that I can adjust pitch and some noise. No modulation like yours.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It could be mine that isn't working properly. I think that there might be something wrong with the Wackiness...

I think the LFO type is the Zany frequenzy

Mine is doing that sound if all the pots are set all the way to the left. ^_^

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you listen to the samples on the MFOS website they also have the
LFO type sound. So I would say your sounds like those samples although mine does not. I'll have to tinker with it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Congrats, Pehr. Sounds good. Lot's of fun...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Congrats, Pehr. Sounds good. Lot's of fun...


Thanks! Very Happy It's my first DIY, and I'm already working on a sound lab

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, then maybe you should take "newbie" from your signature. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Well, then maybe you should take "newbie" from your signature. Laughing


Nah, I'll do that when my SL is finished. Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I was listening to my noise maker the other day and thought it just didn't sound a s good as the samples on the MFOS site. Then I asked Ray about whether the 40106, 74HC14, and 74C14 are all compatible. He pointed out that the HC14 is 3-6V. I checked to see which one I'd used, and, it seems I've been listening to the sound of a 74HC14 frying!! The reason it didn't sound so good was that I forgot to put the marinade on!!
Just thought I'd share this with you Pehr to show that even those of us who've been doing electronics for years make some pretty bizarre goof ups. When you build something for the first time, we're all newbies!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

YES!

Just finished my WSG yesterday! Beginner's luck, I guess. It was my first time soldering anything, let alone handling components, and it worked on the first shot.

I didn't get the type of case that I wanted (otherwise I never would have finished building the thing), but I'll put up a picture of it when I clean the outside a bit.

I used perfboard (which I will never do again unless you can tell me a better way to solder a 30 AWG hookup wire and a component lead to an IC pin without covering the adjacent pins) and a variation on ladislao's setup. THANKS!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Congrats, OPG. I look forward to seeing it someday.

party time!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

opg wrote:
YES!

Just finished my WSG yesterday! Beginner's luck, I guess. It was my first time soldering anything, let alone handling components, and it worked on the first shot.

cool!!! very good job opg...

opg wrote:
I didn't get the type of case that I wanted (otherwise I never would have finished building the thing), but I'll put up a picture of it when I clean the outside a bit.

I'm still looking for a proper case to house this little monster... I will also put up a picture when I'm ready to...

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I used perfboard (which I will never do again unless you can tell me a better way to solder a 30 AWG hookup wire and a component lead to an IC pin without covering the adjacent pins) and a variation on ladislao's setup. THANKS!

well, I'm really happy that my WSG layout is becoming a good reference point...
now opg is time for a soundlab (or a wp20 at least ;D)!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh yes, I will be building the SoundLab. But this time, I will be ordering the PCBs.

I tell ya, the hardest part of the whole project was trying to solder a wire AND a component lead to a tiny IC pin onto a breadboard!


My dream project: A Minisonic2 http://pcbunn.cacr.caltech.edu/jjb/Synthesizers/Minisonic2/default.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Your dream project, the MiniSonic2 is a beauty. What a fine web page too, well worth the look...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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My dream project: A Minisonic2 http://pcbunn.cacr.caltech.edu/jjb/Synthesizers/Minisonic2/default.htm


Is there a PCB-layout for it somewhere? Or does someone sell these PCB's? Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pehr wrote:
Is there a PCB-layout for it somewhere? Or does someone sell these PCB's? :?


I'd start looking for parts before you start looking for a PCB- I'm serious!!

I've been in love with the minisonic ever sinse I bought a copy of 'Sound Design' way back in the late 70's- I even named my studio 'Minisonic'. If you get hold of the second tele:funken LP you can see it printed there :)
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From what I gathered, the MiniSonic2 started in the 70s as a kit you bought and built (I'm assuming the PCBs were included). The only way the author of the website got a hold of them is by contacting the original creator of the kit himself (Mr. Shaw) and asking for them.

Mr. Shaw has his own website that links back to and from the same Minisonic website, but no info on how to obtain PCBs. My guess would be to e-mail either one of them and ask.

Even if we are able to get PCBs from him, there of course is no actual "kit" anymore that has all the parts - specifically the keyboard - so we'll all have to find and tear up a cheapo kid's keyboard just like that guy did. That was my next research anyway - reading up on keyboard matrix layout doohickies...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Why not something like the Maplin 5600? I am sure the schematics and the original PCB layout must be online somewhere. The synth itself was very fun. Designwise it was a mix of this and that, but I remember it as being very nice sounding.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's definately very nice looking!!! Surprised
Let me know if you do find that schem electro.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

both those synths are very nice looking. and is that a buchla sound easel as someone's new icon? did you see that on matrix also? very very cool. i love the design of buchlas. incredibly unique and forward thinking. he took the torch and ran.
i have been researching how to etch a pcb. i have a laser printer at work, so it might work out.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

or why not build this small poly-synth that covers five octaves and has build in speaker! and the unique pitch-bender . . .

Paia´s OZ
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download the pdf and there are PCB-layouts and all -



i think this and few other post could be easily moved to our DIY-section

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

AWESOME!!!! Shocked

I'll certainly try that out!
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dnny wrote:
or why not build this small poly-synth that covers five octaves and has build in speaker! and the unique pitch-bender . . .

Paia´s OZ

download the pdf and there are PCB-layouts and all -
(no exotic parts needed)

daniel


unfortunately, i think you'll find the mk50240 top-octave generator chip pretty much unobtainum...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That top octave chip is basically the same as the one I just pulled out of my old Baleani organ!!! I knew there'd be a way of using it!! Very cool.
Thanks for the PDF Daniel.

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bbob wrote:


unfortunately, i think you'll find the mk50240 top-octave generator chip pretty much unobtainum...

bbob


oh . crap. i don´t know how i missed the MK 50240!
but if some day i find a box of thease i know what to do whit it...

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