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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:18 pm    Post subject: Books! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i'm looking for good books dealing with sound art, electroacoustic composition. also looking for books discussing the history of electronic music. i'll thank anyone who can recommand on something.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931140170/102-2346483-7350501?v=glance

Electronic Music Pioneers
by Ben Kettlewell





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Vintage Synthesizers: Groundbreaking Instruments and Pioneering Designers of Electronic Music Synthesizers
by Mark Vail
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0879302755/qid=1069650803/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/102-2346483-7350501?v=glance&s=books



Modulations: A History of Electronic Music: Throbbing Words on Sound
by Iara Lee
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/189102406X/qid=1069650803/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-2346483-7350501?v=glance&s=books


Electronic and Experimental Music
by Thom Holm
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415936446/qid=1069650803/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/102-2346483-7350501?v=glance&s=books



The Ambient Century : From Mahler to Moby-The Evolution of Sound in the Electronic Age
by Mark Prendergast
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1582343233/ref=pd_sim_books_3/102-2346483-7350501?v=glance&s=books


Site of Sound: of Architecture and the Ear by Brandon Lebelle (Editor), et al

The Audible Past: Cultural Origins of Sound Reproduction by Jonathan Sterne

Noise, Water, Meat: A History of Voice, Sound, and Aurality in the Arts by Douglas Kahn (Author)

Noise: The Political Economy of Music (Theory and History ),

The Soundscape of Modernity: Architectural Acoustics and the Culture of Listening in America, 1900-1933 by Emily Thompson (Author)


Electric Sound: The Past and Promise of Electronic Music
by Joel Chadabe (Author) (Paperback)

The Computer Music Tutorial
by Curtis Roads (Author) (Paperback)



Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition, and Performance
by Charles Dodge, Thomas A. Jerse (Paperback)


Experimental Music : Cage and Beyond
by Michael Nyman (Author) (Paperback - October 1999)

To Boulez and Beyond: Music in Europe Since the Rite of Spring
by Joan Peyser, Joan (Hardcover - December 1999)

Wireless Imagination: Sound, Radio, and the Avant-Garde
by Douglas Kahn (Editor), et al (Paperback)

Genesis of a Music: An Account of a Creative Work, Its Roots and Its Fulfillments
by Harry Partch (Paperback - September 1979)

Music, Physics and Engineering
by Harry F. Olson (Author) (Paperback - June 1967)


The New Music: The Avant-Garde Since 1945
by Reginald Smith Brindle (Paperback - October 1987

American Minimal Music: LA Monte Young, Terry Riley, Steve Reich, Philip Glass
by Wim Mertens, J. Hautekeit (Translator

Rationalizing Culture: Ircam, Boulez, and the Institutionalization of the Musical Avant-Garde
by Georgina Born (Paperback - May 1995)

Techniques of the Contemporary Composer
by David Cope (Paperback)

20/20: 20 New Sounds of the 20th Century
by William Duckworth

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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you are a walking work that contains information on all branches of knowledge or treats comprehensively a particular branch of knowledge usually in articles arranged alphabetically often by subject (aka encyclopedia Exclamation )
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nope.. I do not own all of these... but I know these titles fairly well. i have a lot... a huge lot.. of books on music. A lot of these are scandinavian titles .. and rare xerox copies etc etc.. You remember the Solomon papers?? Very Happy I suggest our friend IRAD checks out the various threads here and collect some of the more obscure links there.

I suggest IRAD also checks out the first book by Peter Michael Hamel.

And... I have another booklist somewhere... which is kinda pretty deep and dense... but where is it??

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmm.. Shocked
Gee Carlo, you are right. Perhaps I collect too much info?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you missed only a book I consider a great one:
synthesizer performance and real-time techniques
by the late Jeff Pressing (check the threads with the "search" option to learn more about him).
I do not know if it is out of print, though.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I love how some of these threads leave me feeling like some rogue dirty homeless unversed kid in the streets of Music City.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There are so many great books on modern music. i suggest Irad tells us a bit about where to start... It is much easier to follow on on certain subjects and take it from there. BTW: Most decent university bookstores has great sections on music. Perhaps Howard, Jeff Harrington of jack Tamul can suggest some interesting titles too?

I once saw three xerox copies of some extremely interesting papers on the keyboard technique of Joe Zawinul. I have tried to find those for years. Any suggestions? In my opinion, that Zawinul dude is pretty good. I have heard him live many times. I do not always agree with the band.. but Zawinul always delivers. I know... Zawinul plays kinda fusion jazz and this is supposed to be dead and buried.. but I think he is good anyway. And his keynoard skills are awesome. Hmm... thus thread is supposed to be about "new" music.. sorry.. no more Zawinul... I promise..

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
you missed only a book I consider a great one:
synthesizer performance and real-time techniques
by the late Jeff Pressing (check the threads with the "search" option to learn more about him).
I do not know if it is out of print, though.


That one is GOOD! I know that one!

And there are a lot of nice titles about CSOUND and stuff like that if Irad wanna go CSOUND.


When it comes to music philosophy and analysis.. I hope we can take those subjects somewhere ... some day.. later... we can do that eh?

I guess one of the vital issues here might be about the purpose of music.. the music we make.. the visions.. what we do, what we have done.. and why.. Do we explore visions and theoretical frameworks when we make music?


Stay with us, CYX! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I haven´t seen that many forums out there which take threads like this one in .. well.. this direction. This is a great place to hang out. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am familliar with csound, so I suppose that puts shoes on my feet.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shoes are cool! Very Happy
This field is huge. The only thing you can hope to do well is to pursue your own vision.

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Huge yes, probably several orders of magnatude beyond most others simply due to accessability and the age we are in right now, and it really hasn't even happened yet, if you know what I mean,

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You propose the idea that theoretical frameworks that handle what we do now, is a thing of the future? And that the major bulk of literature, both practical and acedemic, is yet unpublished? Yeah, you might be right. That idea has some interesting implications.
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elektro80 wrote:

I once saw three xerox copies of some extremely interesting papers on the keyboard technique of George Zawinul. I have tried to find those for years. Any suggestions? In my opinion, that Zawinul dude is pretty good. I have heard him live many times. I do not always agree with the band.. but Zawinul always delivers. I know... Zawinul plays kinda fusion jazz and this is supposed to be dead and buried.. but I think he is good anyway. And his keynoard skills are awesome. Hmm... thus thread is supposed to be about "new" music.. sorry.. no more Zawinul... I promise..

I do not know who George Zawinul is, but I know Joe Zawinul. I actually met him in 1990. For one week I was his Italian translator at the Berklee Seminars at Umbria Jazz Festival in Italy. He is another guy from Austria who made it big in the USA (like the new governor of California. Zawinul too is based in California). I was allowed to see his band perform for six consecutive days. the outcome was very different from one day to the other: one day it was fantastic, the following was so and so.
I remember his stories, like the one regarding the fact that his first electric piano was given to him by Ray Charles, or a very young Jaco Pastorious presenting himself to him as "the best bass player in the world" (the funny thing is that he was right!), or the fact that while Wayne Shorter (the sax player of Weather Report) used yoga to relax, Joe drank "grappa" to achieve the same results Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Same guy-- Joe
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
you missed only a book I consider a great one:
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by the late Jeff Pressing (check the threads with the "search" option to learn more about him).
I do not know if it is out of print, though.


http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-364.html

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This site has some gems hidden in the old threads.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
This site has some gems hidden in the old threads.

this site is less than a year old but it contains a huge amount of informations already.
In a few years its name will be changed to:
ELECTRO-MUSIC ENCYCLOPEDIA.COM

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Encyclopedia Electronica


...Galactica was already taken.

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Hmm.. you are right. I agree.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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what's that bottle-shaped synth I see on your new avatar? I do not recognize it Exclamation Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That must be the new Korg "Analog Intruder Deluxe"?
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elektro80 wrote:
That must be the new Korg "Analog Intruder Deluxe"?

gee...I thought so but I wasn't sure.
Is it intended for anal-retentive synthesists? To open up the flow of ideas? Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It is a Korg product... so I guess you are pretty much correct about the inner workings of the product. I saw Turnkey has announced shipments of the "family pack" in time for XMAS.
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