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Cyxeris
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:29 pm Post subject:
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Award Winning Music Creators in U.S. Court Battle
Fri Dec 5, 6:53 PM ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Hans Zimmer and Jay Rifkin, two childhood pals who created the award-winning film score for "The Lion King" have fallen out over what Rifkin described in a $10 million lawsuit as Zimmer's plot to take over their famed Santa Monica, California music studio.
In the lawsuit, filed on Thursday in Los Angeles Superior Court, Rifkin accused his longtime partner in Media Ventures Entertainment Group of plotting with the company's resident composers to hijack the business "in a textbook example of breach of fiduciary duty."
According to the company's Web site, Media Ventures is home to more than a dozen composers, a support staff of nearly 100 and a 40,000-square-foot, state-of-the-art studio campus.
Zimmer, whose 100th film is "The Last Samurai," allegedly encouraged the other composers through a series of "secret e-mails" to stop working with Rifkin and join him "in a new paradigm or 'fraternity' of composers," the lawsuit said.
As a result, composers stopped honoring their contracts with Media Ventures and ceased cooperating in ongoing and future projects, the lawsuit said.
Zimmer, who has received major awards nominations for "Rain Man," "The Lion King," "The Prince of Egypt," "The Thin Red Line," and "Black Hawk Down," could not immediately be reached for comment.
Rifkin and Zimmer met as teenagers in Brighton, England, through their guitar teachers. They performed in a rock band together and operated a music studio from the mid- to late 1970s with Rifkin acting as engineer and producer and Zimmer taking on the creative composing duties, the lawsuit said.
The partners collaborated in Hollywood for the first time on the soundtrack for the 1988 film, "Rainman," which was nominated for an Academy Award. _________________ ∆ Cyx ∆
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:36 am Post subject:
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it sounds like a bitter ending of a great collaboration
the shit hit the fan _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Cyxeris
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:52 am Post subject:
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I'm a fan of Zimmer's. I really do hope he is not the asshole here.
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:15 am Post subject:
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The Hans Zimmer Worship Board
http://www.ifiji.com/msgboard.mv _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Cyxeris
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:25 am Post subject:
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He's one of my primary influences, if you want to call him that. He along with Marillion, Rush, Vangelis, some of Horner's work. There was actually a time when I was seriously interested in interning at Media Ventures. That faded as my desire to score faded, and as Zimmer became less hero-like and more peer-like to me.
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:35 am Post subject:
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Marillion? Did you notice all the LP covers they have on one of their old LP covers.. hehe.. anyway.. there they list osme of their influences. You will find Peter Hammill/VDGG there too. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:55 am Post subject:
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That actually does not suprise me. To this day, Clutching at Straws is one of my favorite Cds of that genre. I have difficulty dealing with non-Fish Marillion. It's just different, like Van Halen with Hagar, I suppose. Brave is great, but it's... just a different band.
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:31 am Post subject:
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wait a minute the real Hans Zimmer Worship Page is this one as posted (in the Links pages) by yours truly Links Editor _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:34 am Post subject:
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Quite true.. but then who can control spontanous worship? _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Cyxeris
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:53 am Post subject:
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I just hope he's not a villian. A villain chillin, grillin cream fillin for some swillin love.
Where is my Crimson Tide score?
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Where is my King Crimson CD box? _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:12 am Post subject:
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Under your Gentle Giant collection.
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:14 am Post subject:
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I loved this one _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Cyxeris
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:16 am Post subject:
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We're such nerds.
And I love it.
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HIHI!
BTW: Hans Zimmer is using ghost writers. Makes you wonder how much of the music really is his. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:07 am Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | HIHI!
BTW: Hans Zimmer is using ghost writers. Makes you wonder how much of the music really is his. |
well...I am not surprised at all.
I guess ghostwriters are a common practice (I have one myself )
composing, arranging, orchestrating are time consuming processes unless your name is W.A. Mozart (In that case you do not give a damn about ghostwriters), plus, these guys have to spend time on public relations, meetings with film (and mushroom) producers and who knows what else _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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I guess "Hans Zimmer" is mainly a brand these days. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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