G2 Version 1.40 Released!

Joe Misra · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject:

I can't stop playing with it. I've been going through all the patches I've collected from the forum hitting 'N' over and over... So many hidden sounds...

dasz · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject:

The new v1.4 is great! but it is something I do after I'm done patching ... which means more material, lasting longer, with more changes, which is good... the DNA looks cool and wormy! Yeah, variations created with the mutators, should be called worms, not noodles ... nice worms, but worms nontheless...

but I like to tweak the panel, thus, mosc, I agree, the fact you can't assign the patch adjustor knobs to the panel, sux. Maybe they could do a quick morph assign (assign all attacks, all decays, etc) ... that would be better than nothing...

oh, and all those patches I messed up and could not open before, now open with no problems ... I guess time was all it took ...

Gotta go -- packing my sh*t for NAMM 06 tonight including a CD of 2 dozen+ patches/prfs ... and the digital camera and tripod!

Talk to you when I get back!
/Dasz

varice · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject:

The Clavia programmers must not be very superstitious. The Windows version of the Editor reports in the About Box that the Editor was built last Friday the 13th Exclamation

dasz · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject:

Maybe this OS is evil?

I don't think so Wink

. Just look into Setup - Options. High Contrast mode for color blindness. They do listen...
/Dasz

varice · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject:

Except for a couple of old bugs that were not fixed, I have not noticed anything bad that could be attributed to bad luck (I say while knocking on wood). Laughing

coolcat · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject:

cappy2112 · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject:

monobass · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:51 am Post subject:

I don't know how anyone could be dissapointed with this... it's worth 20 new modules as far as I am concerned...

I don't about everyone else but in the 7 years or so (god I didn't know it was that long) i've been patching nord modulars a fairly common occurance has been spending 5 hours on a patch... and it sounds terrible at the end of it Smile

And I've walked away with nothing..

I don't think that will be happening anymore...

BobTheDog · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:42 am Post subject:

Well its absolutely great for synth idiots such as myself who are not sure what all the knobs on a patch do.

It definately makes it easier for me to come up with some nice sounds.

Cheers

Andy

Rob · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:58 am Post subject:

mother misty · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:24 am Post subject:

Finally!

I've only played half an houre with 1.4 but I really like it.
The patch mutator is really cool and sounds very musical!
It sounds alot more musical than any randomizer I've ever played with, works great on sequencer-based patches.
The patch adjuster is also a very usefull tool, works great on jan's noodles for example! Smile

I'm a little bit surprised there isn't a "pitch" knob here?
(it's just a pitty that we can't assign knobs to this patch adjuster!)

anyway.... Nice job clavia!

sebber · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:28 am Post subject:

Afro88, where did you find out about the z know? That's great, just the right complement to the Mutator.

Finding new sounds is so easy now, almost too easy to send them to the forum. We might drown in new patches, which are actually only variations on the old ones. I wonder: is that a problem? Do we need another forum for mutated patches? I mutated the 108-Koto patch (was it me?) and put it back in the Acoustic forum, but hey - is that still a Koto that I hear?

I'm just glad that they can't do that as yet with us. I mean the mutating thing, you know... Me and a Koto. And something from the old dinosaur egg they found in the cellar. Just to check it out, if it's rubbish, just delete it. cyclops

Fozzie · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:13 am Post subject:

monobass · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:31 am Post subject:

deknow · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:37 am Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:44 am Post subject:

I like the patch mutator, but it takes me one step away from the patch and from patching process and experience. I mean, it can create some facinating changes, but you really are one level of indirection away from what is happening. Unless you really put in a lot of effort, you don't know what the mutator is adjusting. Sure, you get to vote on what you like and what you don't, and maybe you can come across sounds you might not have thought of otherwise, but the process doesn't require or advance knowledge. My first impression is that I don't care for this. I prefer to know exactly what it going on.

I guess you don't have to use it if you don't want to.

monobass · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:53 am Post subject:

Joe Misra · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:04 am Post subject:

I think the real benefit will be when I want to work on a song, not patch. If I want to jump right into building a track and pull up some unique sounds to work with, this will be extremely useful.

I spent a few hours and came up with hundreds of useful sounds in patches of mine I never had enough time to fully explore (though I couldn't stop playing with the mutator to actually work on a song...)

dasz · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:20 am Post subject:

mosc, if you are mutating your own patches, I find that it is worth looking into what changes the mutator makes to the designs (it's like looking at other people's patches based on YOUR synth or groovebox), it gives me ideas on how I could tweak the design, what I could add or remove to the patch (in terms of modules).

I think the mutator is an excellent source for testing the types of patches your designs. I panel surf the patch when listening to a worm (mutated variation) I really like.

Yes it does suck we did not get any new modules or any substatial fixes or additions to existing modules. But like I always say, with Clavia, never hold your breath (for deadlines or features). Clavia have their own ideas, and have the right to do develop whatever they want.

A great feature would have been to mutate the morphs too. So the mutator creates morphs for you.

Cheers.
/Dasz

cebec · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:30 am Post subject:

don't forget you can exclude specific modules from mutation... although, it would've been even nicer to exclude specific controls, as well... also, it would be fantastic if we could define what the patch adjustor adjusts!

monobass · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:44 am Post subject:

It's time to leave control behind and embrace the pure psychic automatism Wink

blue hell · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:55 am Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:56 am Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:01 am Post subject:

dasz · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:03 am Post subject:

Yup, excluding individual controls is a big loss. But you can work around this by excluding a whole a module, connect a level module to a modulation input (or if no modulatio input exists for a parameter, then do this via internal midi cc's), and include this level module in the mutation (but then it is excluded from the quick patch adjusment, since it is just a generic knob).

But doing this is a pain in the butt vs having the elegant ability to exclude a knob or a module. Maybe in v1.41??

Now that I think about it, we could write s/w that would send keystrokes to the mutator (via Windows Message Queue), that would create worms (mutations) automatically, and broadcast it.

We could call it worm radio. But it is not the same as noodle radio (which is personally crafted by Jan, and not by code and DNA).

/Dasz