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Good to see manufacturers working on the important things. Certainly, if we use this knob on our digital synths, we'll get that warm analog sound. 
Silver Rock Signature Knob
Code: NOB_C37_C
Price: $485.00
Good vibrations, Bad vibrations it’s all about vibrations!! RAM would like to introduce a new signature level knob developed for the mighty Silver Rock potentiometer. The standard bakelite knob is certainly the best sounding compromise... but now Audio Consulting has taken this aspect of the Silver Rock much further. The new knobs are custom made with beech wood and bronze where the bronze is used as the insert to mount to the stem of the volume pot. The beech wood is coated several times with C37 lacquer for best sound as pointed out by Dieter Ennemoser. How can this make a difference??? Well, hearing is believing as we always say. The sound becomes much more open and free flowing with a nice improvement in resolution. Dynamics are better and overall naturalness is improved. Here is a test for all you Silver Rock owners. Try removing the bakelite knobs and listen. You will be shocked by this! The signature knobs will have an even greater effect…really amazing! The point here is the micro vibrations created by the volume pots and knobs find their way into the delicate signal path and cause degradation (Bad vibrations equal bad sound). With the signature knobs micro vibrations from the C37 concept of wood, bronze and the lacquer itself compensate for the volume pots and provide (Good Vibrations) our ear/brain combination like to hear…way better sound!!
Knobs can easily be installed on all versions of the Silver Rock potentiometer.
http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C
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heheh 
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Yes, this one IS funny.
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how many knobs do you get for that kind of money 
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The Bybee solution
Electrons
The Bybee solution is based on principles derived from quantum mechanics, the study of how electrons behave at the subatomic level. Quantum physicists have learned that electrons have an intrinsic angular characteristic expressed in terms of spin (either up or down), which describes their orbital behavior around the nucleus of an atom. When subjected to Bybee’s high-temperature near-superconductive material, electrons tend to join in a beneficial manner, increasing the velocity of propagation (VP) by forming what are known as Cooper’s Pairs (one spin-up electron joined with a spin-down). Coopers’ Pairs have the unique ability to tunnel through the crystal lattice of the conductor (such as a copper wire) essentially unimpeded, therefore eliminating virtually all quantum noise phenomena. To understand this effect, imagine a football game in which the player receiving the kick off could run straight down field to the goal line without being touched by any defenders.
The Bybee Quantum Purifiers
Bybee Technologies has developed devices fabricated from ceramics doped with oxides of rare-earth metals such as zirconium and neodymium. They achieve a VP of 92% of the speed of light, which is far higher than VPs of common conductors, which typically range from 50 to 70% of the speed of light.
In addition to being near-superconductive, Bybee Quantum Purifiers are electrically passive and stable in any circuit. They induce no phase shift whatsoever, and are totally non-reactive—meaning there is no reactance between capacitance and inductance.
These qualities are beneficial in numerous ways. When placed between an amplifier’s power transformer and diode bridge, for example, the Quantum Purifier eliminates undesirable impedance mismatches. In an amplifier-to-speaker connection, the absence of reactance creates an optimal signal transfer and presents an easier load to the amplifier. When transmitting digital information, the Bybee Quantum Purifier eliminates the overshoot and ringing that can occur in the leading edge of the square wave. This type of distortion is a major contributor to the harshness and glare often associated with digital sound.
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Those speakers look pretty cool. I like the design. They would be good point source radiators. The price is pretty outrageous though. I bet that is $19,000 each, BTW.
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| elektro80 wrote: | | Quote: |
The Bybee solution
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| Quote: | | When transmitting digital information, the Bybee Quantum Purifier eliminates the overshoot and ringing that can occur in the leading edge of the square wave. This type of distortion is a major contributor to the harshness and glare often associated with digital sound. |
I have heard this before. It's insane, meaningless tripe. Compared to this, the wooden knobs with 37 coats of varnish makes more sense.
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Yup, this is high quality manure.
That product name, The Bybee Quantum Purifiers, could just as well be licensed to some neonazi DJ crew in search of a catchy name.
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now this thread is ready to be moved to "schmooze", isn't it
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Not at all, we are commenting on ...well.. new gear.. and all these comments.. including your next punchline.. are all very relevant.
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| I couldn't tell if that price was for real or not. After looking at the silver rock potentiometer price tag, I guess so. I don't mean to scoff at anyones design achievements, but I think I'd rather have 2 (or more) moog voyagers than a silver rock potentiometer with 2 beechwood knobs. |
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Excellent news! I guess you will post a product review too. And don´t forget that Bybee Quantum Purifier in order to kick those squares back into proper squareness.
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Also, kids, rember that´s much, much better to invest in gold plated rca plugs then it is to move to ballanced xlr. It´s also vitally important that the last meter of power cabel be realy exotic, no matter who put what 3 cent a meter cable in your walls. Yup, it is. Spend at least 200 euro on each powercable.
Hey, i read that if you use liquid cooling on your DAC´s you can retune equal tuned pianos to werkmeisterIII too.
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| Quote: | | The SRTP, as its name implies, is a transformer with multiple secondaries to controlling the volume. There are no resistors in series with the signal and it is completely passive meaning no power cord to buy! The ultra low impedance of the SRTP gives you the ultimate in dynamics especially at low levels seemingly a major drawback with resistive based solutions. |
This is interesting, the Silver Rock Potentiometer isn't a potentiometer at all, but a switch that selects secondary windings on a transformer. Transformers are know sources of distortion in audio systems. The knob is supposed to affect the sound because it absorbs micro vibrations that would be fed back into the system through the knob's shaft and then into the potentiometers. This is actually a theoretically possible effect that may induce distortion into your playback system. My guess the distortion products would be about 600 dB down, but still it's conceivable. But the fact that the SRTP is really a switch and not a pot eliminates the theoretical basis for using an inert knob in the first place. Worse yet, switches are the absolutely last thing you'd want in an audio path. They are susceptable to corrosion and are the cause of much noise.
So, I reluctantly conclude that these knobs are a bit overpriced. I would certainly never pay more than $350 for one of them. Besides, look howsloppy the construction is. The pointers should be aligned with the grain of the wood, either parallel or perpendicular to it, wouldn't you think?
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| mosc wrote: | | The knob is supposed to affect the sound because it absorbs micro vibrations that would be fed back into the system through the knob's shaft and then into the potentiometers. This is actually a theoretically possible effect that may induce distortion into your playback system. My guess the distortion products would be about 600 dB down, but still it's conceivable. |
That´s it! I´m building a resonator based on this feedback principle. I´ll be playing it by moving a cheap pot closer to and further away from a realy big and loud speaker. I´m going to sell compositions made using that on audio dvd´s. You´ll be kindly requested to remove any and all ear jewelry before listening because the eigen frequency of earjewelry will do irrepairable damage to my recordings.
please pre order by sending 200 euro and a recent ear test signed by a physisian to;
kassen,
Signal Automatique Studio.
The Hague.
Netherlands.
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Ah, yes, the eigenfrequency is so important. Music not crafted for the eigenfrequency lacks the essential transconductance to communicate on all 11 universal dimensions.
People can send me $25,000 for special ear jewerly that synchronizes all of the prime eigenfrequencies for a more natural harmonic balance. In fact, only with this ear jewelry can one really appreciate the sonic improvements of the signature level knob. You'll be amazed when you first hear it!
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| mosc wrote: | Ah, yes, the eigenfrequency is so important. Music not crafted for the eigenfrequency lacks the essential transconductance to communicate on all 11 universal dimensions.
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ok, now i know what is wrong with the last mix i did..
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Of cource another solution for those on a budget is to glue down the volume pot of your amp. that´ll stop it from vibrating too. No doubt this was realised already by many which must by why all that loud music is made by those folks with the old worn clothes!
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| Quote: | | Ah, yes, the eigenfrequency is so important. Music not crafted for the eigenfrequency lacks the essential transconductance to communicate on all 11 universal dimensions |
Did you guys find some kind of Audionic Babble Generator, akin to the trekno babble generator?
http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-4282.html&highlight=babble
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Did you guys find some kind of Audionic Babble Generator, akin to the trekno babble generator?
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Nah.
It comes natural to me ;¬)
Actually ear jewelry will have some eigenfrequency. Everything does. This will have some effect on the sound heard, quite possibly a larger effect then "panpot feedback" but, erm, much less then -say- keeping your cd burner´s speed at the lowest setting for master cd´s. Honest, I wasn´t spouting nonsense. If those folks are right my "resonator" will work too for suficiently large amps.
I´m not sure what Mosc is going on about but surely those superstrings must resonate on some frequency that can cause aliassing? From now on I´m
A)blaming superstring aliassing for everything bad about any sound anywhere. and
B) going to tell Applied Acoustics they must make a physical model of superstrings with a new "superbow" module to excite those. Clearly this will create the need for a new Tassman interface with 11 dimentions to tangle patch cords in (but some of those patch cords will be folded back on themselves, which goes without saying).
Too much coffee, too late in the evening.
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Well, Kassen, I thing you just make an important discovery. Superstring aliasing is actually the quantum effect! Good work...
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Who is actually paying that money for a little piece of wood?
The price tag shows, that part of the so called high-end HiFi (high end of prices?) is a goldmine like printing your own money. All it takes are a few people beliving what others wrote (for money) about the sensational new sound you got with adding railway track sized cables and wooden knobs that cost about 20 Euro to produce in low quantities.
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