Buying a G2 key :-) question...

nuriel77

Hi!

I am so glad, I finally decided to get a G2 key version. I managed to find a second hand one for 1000,- euro, and I am going to check it out later today (see if it works 100%).

I was also offered to buy the expansion board, but didnt know if I should save on the money and wait with it, as i can always get one.

I am currently still using the NM1, so I guess upgrading to the G2 will already be a world of difference for me, so would it be recommended to get the expansion board together with the G2 or wait a little ? (As I would like to save on the money...)

fac · Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject:

I think you may answer your own question, given your experience with the NM1.

Is your NM1 expanded? If not, have you always wanted the expansion for more polyphony?

Do you plan to keep your NM1 or sell it after getting the G2? If you plan to keep it, you may not need the expansion so badly, otherwise, you can sell the NM1 and buy the expansion.

The advantage of the G2 is that the expansion board not only expands the polyphony, but it also gives you more power for more complex designs because you can transfer audio between slots, and you can also use 100% CPU for the polyphonic section, and another 100% for the monophonic section, thus each slot can actually use 200% CPU. Therefore, if you like to make ultra complex patches, you will probably want the expansion sooner or later.

dasz · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:56 am Post subject:

keep in mind that with an expanded G2 you can get more complex patches (% wise) than in an expanded NM1.

Here is what you can do with an expanded G2
Slot A Voice area 100% / FX/Common Area 100%
Slot B Voice area 100% / FX/Common Area 100%
Slot C Voice area 100% / FX/Common Area 100%
Slot D Voice area 100% / FX/Common Area 100%

I don't recall you can do this in a NM1, you get more polyphony
/Dasz

nuriel77 · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: well i got it... :-)

yes. you were right, I did need the expansion board sooner rather than later... Smile

I do still have the NM1, but it has to go back to its original owners Sad

...
(I am trying to buy it off him! since i connected the G2 and the NM1 and it will be hard to disconnect them now!)

However I do realize that the G2 whole system kind of gets kind of slow when heavy patches are loaded. Do you also experience this?
Or am I having some problem thus?

Actually there is no crashes or audio not playing (as I used to experience the first days before i expanded the G2).

What I notice is that when a performance is heavely loaded, either the graphics in the editor becomes kind of slow or the text on the lcd screens when switching pages for example. But again, not a major thing as there are no problems with audio at all.

Chrono · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:51 am Post subject:

mine is currently shipping back to clavia, and a new one with expansion will fulfill my needs.

After a couple days i feld its limitation.. in my opinion the only thing missing when it ships back to me is unison and granular fx and math options. (my eyes did see a math section on a picture of the g1 editor tough!?) It's no problem for me to use the modular as sampler fx for the mpc1000.

Wout Blommers · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject:

Chrono · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:23 am Post subject:

then what is this (red circle and arrow)? :O

wich modular is suported with that editor? the picturename says G2 as i googled it, Source = Harmony Central.

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egw · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:40 am Post subject:

I think that picture was just an early peek at the user inteface for the G2 under development.
If you download the current editor, you will find that it is different - no "math" category, the modules are different, etc.
But many basic math functions can be done other ways.

mosc · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: Re: well i got it... :-)

dasz · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:39 am Post subject:

I remember that screen shot and how much excitement is brought.

we don't have a synth tab either. or the quad modules or ...
/Dasz

ark · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:56 am Post subject:

Chrono · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:11 am Post subject:

That diode thing looks like the rectifier if im not wrong.. that bode device looks cool , and do i notice that there is a different reverb? at least the module looks different.

dasz how long ago did you see that screenshot?
if thats a long time ago did they decrease the options?

i know you can do some math other ways thats great, but now im very curious whats at the synth tab, and the other tabs..

i do think some other interface stuff looks more old. And at the top bar the 1.4 editor says Nord Modular G2 Editor, and this one only says Nord Modular Editor

and! i cant see slot A, B , C, D.

blue hell · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject:

The screenshot is of a very early G2 proto (it's from before 2003-07-16), the features were changed quite a lot indeed.

The bode shifter is just the frequency shifter (which is a Bode frequency shifter still) but the sine/cosine outputs were removed although the first public versions still had that ... too bad really.

blue hell · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject:

Chrono · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject:

as i can see on your screenshots you have some editors wich i dont have :p

are these older editors still availeble for download somewhere? if not can you upload them for me Laughing

I see you too dont like they decreased some in the newer version :p As it was for me i would leave every early stage possibility open, but heck those things might give them to much trouble for further releases.
im no programmer it think thats pretty boring writing that code stuff Very Happy

blue hell · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject:

Chrono · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:18 am Post subject:

I see, ill have a good look there!

mother misty · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: Re: well i got it... :-)

Wout Blommers · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:52 am Post subject:

I still have some sentiments about not realizing the Polar Pan and Polar Fade... Crying or Very sad

Wout

dasz · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject:

me too. BUt is it possible with a zero Hz OSC, phase shifted to reflect the angle, someone did do it.

I think using many polar pans feeding other polar pans would have been trippy. I think these kinds of modules are like drumsynth, FM OP and ENv, they are more specialized.

I think Clavia prioritized the pan out since simpler modules, thus more flexible (in general) must have been higher up there.

Oh well, all this rambling, and no patching ... I gotta get back to v1.40 editor Smile

/Dasz

nuriel77 · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: well i got it... :-)

Wout Blommers · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject:

Yep, sometimes it happens...
Try another computer, because I think it is the combination of USB and computer. I have a computer which won't load Performances. As soon I try it, the Editor crashes away...
On another computer no problem at all.

Wout

nuriel77 · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: