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The best way to make beautiful Goa/Trance gate effect ?
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onosendai



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: The best way to make beautiful Goa/Trance gate effect ? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello !

I don't know if you listen some Goa/Psychedelic Trance but they use a lot of gate effect to create crazy sound. I've tried to reproduce that with my G2 but i can reach the clean, cutting effect of pro tracks like Infected Mushroom does.

Have you some idea to work with ? What will you do to cut a trance lead sound into rythm part.

My 2 cent with this patch, but it's not exactly the effect i want.


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I've tried to make gating effect... but it's not really that

This patch work with the demo.

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deknow



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if i understand what you are going for (which i might not), i think what you want is to mash up the sound a bit more _before_ the gating. try something like this (which is just slightly modified from yours):
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onosendai



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's not exactly about the sound, it's much about how to trigger or gate the sound.

Go there : http://www.deezer.com/ search "infected mushroom", and listen the track "Ratio Shmatio". At 1.20, you will heard a sound triggered nicely... but i don't know how. Enveloppe ? Gate ? Just midi programming ? How do they create this "high-speed-cut-gate" effect witch i love but can't reproduce

EDIT : at 2.25, i love this gate effect ! Do they retrigger all the enveloppe or just gate the master volume in sync with a LFO ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

onosendai wrote:
at 2.25, i love this gate effect ! Do they retrigger all the enveloppe or just gate the master volume in sync with a LFO ?


Are you talking about that short lead-rush thingie? (I don't hear any other 'gated-lead-like' sounds there) If so, why do you imply it had to be done on a synthesizer? It could easily be a truncated lead attack sample played back on any sequencer with 32nd or 64th note fill.
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onosendai



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hum... maybe Very Happy Good clue.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tried to listen to the sample you referred to, but it only goes up to 1min, so i can't hear what happens at 1min20sec.

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emeleia



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: nothing's goasetup Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hi, i have heard a lot this kind of effects on many trance songs. there are many ways for achieving what you want. actually i read on the web how infected does it with cubebase, but i don't use that sequencer, i use live. When i tried to do it i routed the track out of a Pad that i recorded on live and passed it through the g2. i used a gate module, that was controlled by seq modules, and filters modulated by env modules.

I made some changes to your patch maybe it is what you expected..

P.D. i think i will use this patch too Very Happy

cheers


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

X-Electric wrote:
onosendai wrote:
at 2.25, i love this gate effect ! Do they retrigger all the enveloppe or just gate the master volume in sync with a LFO ?


Are you talking about that short lead-rush thingie? (I don't hear any other 'gated-lead-like' sounds there) If so, why do you imply it had to be done on a synthesizer? It could easily be a truncated lead attack sample played back on any sequencer with 32nd or 64th note fill.


I'm agree with that
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