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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject:
Dang.
You are not measuring a short - or nearly so.... which is what I was expecting.
When you have the batteries hooked up - what are you measuring for voltage + and -?
Then put a MA meter in series with the + supply - what are you measuring for current? Do the same for the - supply.
Back to troubleshooting 101.
Get back in there with a magnifying glass and look for solder bridges. Double check your 'flying wires' to the jacks.
Re-check the IC orientation (they don't all face the same way)
Keep posting what you are finding... and maybe post a nice close shot of the board - top and bottom.
Thanks a LOT!
I am learning a lot about trouble-shooting with your help......
But....I think theres a law; something like: the more time (T) one spends looking for a problem (P) is exponentially relevent to the simpleness (S) of the problem, and thereby the solution.
I am still not sure exactly what the problem was, but for some reason I decided to un-solder the battery harness, and 're-build' it using brand new battery clips.
I re-built it and soldered it on in the EXACT same way it was before.....and it now WORKS!
weird.
I havnt a clue of the exact hows and whys of that battery harness being....funky....but appearently it was. Maybe something was shorted up inside the clip part?
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject:
Subject description: Problem #2: The process of weeding out
OK, now that I've got the mini-controller basically working, how do I make it work?
(I'm in the process of making a video that might help to explain things better)
Part of the master plan is to make a bass act as a keyboard/controller.
On the mini-controller, there are spots on the PCB for hooking up an external keyboard. So thats where I thought I'd hook in my bass "Keyboard" (Resistor chain running under the fretboard connecting frets, and the string acting as the bus)
I am using a standard XLR sockets and cable because it has three leads: Bus, Key top and key bottom.
I connected those into the "KBTP" and "KBUS" and what I am assuming is "key board bottom" on the PCB.
NOW the weirdness begins:
Without the bass/keyboard plugged in, this opperate normally as far as the key-pads and wand on the mini-controller go. You can hear the different notes from one pad to the next.
BUT
When I plug in my bass/keyboard, then it will trigger, but there are no "Notes" just the same note no matter what pad I hit with the wand. The bass behaves this way too.
I hope I am making some kind of sense here.
Unplugged=Different notes
Plugged in= No different notes.
Should I somehow disconnect the built-in keyboard on the mini-controller if I am going to use an external keyboard?
I'll try to get this video up that might explain the issues better.
Well, sort of. I havn't really messed with it much since my last post. (Got distracted by other things....and ordering more PCBs from Ray)
But, by "Lifting a leg" you are NOT refering to peeing on it, like a dog 'lifts a leg' to pee on a fire hydrant?
Are you saying that I should basically break the resistor chain by clipping, or un-soldering one of the resistors in the chain? And then seeing how THAT might affect the working of my external "key board"?
I'll give that a try, maybe this afternoon.
And if thats what it takes, I might install a switch between the resistor chain and the 'external keyboard' so that I can easily switch between using the keypads and my bass-controller.
Are you saying that I should basically break the resistor chain by clipping, or un-soldering one of the resistors in the chain? And then seeing how THAT might affect the working of my external "key board"?
I'll give that a try, maybe this afternoon.
And if thats what it takes, I might install a switch between the resistor chain and the 'external keyboard' so that I can easily switch between using the keypads and my bass-controller.
Hey Chrometuna,
So did breaking the on-board resistor chain solve the problem? Does the 'external' keyboard now work?
Dang! I was hoping that the Mini-Controller would work with both the on-board keys and an external keyboard plugged in.
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