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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:36 am    Post subject: about sysex Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey
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I would like to control some parameter on my sampler but those are only accessible via sysex. Here’s the info about one parameter

E4_VOICE_AENV_SEG2_RATE, id = 121 (79h,00h) min = 0; max = 127 (Rls1
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Next is the info provided by EMU…Well i can’t figure it out and
and i’m sure that once you know how to write one sysex command all the other are quite similar…anybody have a couple of minute to decrypt how to write this properly in the cubase mixer...

General Information:

The E4 line of products support the Non-Real Time System Exclusive
General Information Device Inquiry messages (sub-ID#1 = 06).

Format: {F0h,7Eh,<device ID>,06h,01h,F7}

{F0h,7Eh,<device ID>} = Universal System Exclusive Non-real time header.
06h = General Information (sub-ID#1)
01h = Identity Request (sub-ID#2)
F7h = EOX


Response: {F0h,7Eh,<device ID>,06h,02h,mm,ff,ff,dd,dd,ss,ss,ss,ss,F7}


{F0h,7Eh,<device ID>} = Universal System Exclusive Non-real time header.
<device ID> = ID the hunk of metal and plastic is set to.
0 - 126 are Unique ID's, 127 is an All Broadcast ID.
06h = General Information (sub-ID#1)
02h = Identity Reply (sub-ID#2)
mm = 18h (Manufacturers System Exclusive id code)
ff ff = 01h,04h (Device family code, 14 bits, LSB first)
dd dd = Device family member code, 14 bits, LSB first
00h,05h = E4
01h,05h = E64
02h,05h = E4k
03h,05h = E64FX
04h,05h = E4XT
05h,05h = E4X
06h,05h = E6400
07h,05h = E4XT ULTRA
08h,05h = E6400 ULTRA

ss ss ss ss = Software revision level, 4 ASCII characters.
example: 4 . 0 0 = version 4.00

F7h = EOX


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

oh, i thougt you were asking us if we enjoy sysex..i was going to vote yes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Answer not possible, not enough input was provided.

What you should look for is the general layout for sysex parameter control messages and then substitute the specifics into that.

What you provided, apart from the specifics to control one parameter, is the layout for a message to query the device for it's identity and the possible replies on that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

:cry: here is the whole manual


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

niko_91 wrote:
:cry: here is the whole manual


Was affraid already you'd do that .. ok asked for it, so here we go :

One of the examples in the manual is :


Parameter Value Edit:

EXAMPLE:> {F0h,18h,21h,ddh,55h,01h,02h,<xxh,xxh,yyh,yyh>,<Checksum>,F7h}

F0h = sysex message
18h = EMU ID
21h = E4 ID
ddh = Device ID
55h = Special Editor designator byte

01h = Command::Parameter Value Edit

02h = Byte count(number of Byte pairs)

{xxh,xxh} = Parameter ID (LSB first)
{yyh,yyh} = Parameter Data

<Checksum> = 1 Byte = XOR(1's compliment) of sum of {<xxh,xxh,yyh,yyh>}
= 7Fh is ignore checksum flag.

F7h = EOX
This message contains only 1 packet.

Do not send messages containing more than 256 Data Bytes, or 42 Parameter Edits, at a time.


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Here in are :

ddh: to be substituted by the device id of the sampler (7f for broadcast).

xxh, xxh: to be substituted by 79h, 00h for your example.

yyh, yyh: to be substituted by the value to set

<checksum> best set it to 7fh, as otherwise you'll have to calculate a
correct value.

To set your 'example parameter' to the value 127 (which is hexadecimal 7f) this translates into :

f0, 18, 21, 01, 55, 01, 02, 79, 00, 7f, 00, 7f, f7

in which I ommitted the h's (which are only used to indicated hexadecimal
numbers and are not part of the numbers), and assuming a device ID of 01 (you could use 7f when you don't know).

Now how this must be handled in Cubase ... I don't know ... but I hope this helps you

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked Surprised thumb up cyclops

Thanks Jan

i knew that stuff could be explained simply
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

here's the midi technical fanatics brainwashing center's version of the midi specification: http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/midispec.htm

might help for future reference. excercise them hex digits...hmm too bad I don't have 8 fingers on each hand.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

noiseusse wrote:
excercise them hex digits...hmm too bad I don't have 8 fingers on each hand.

in the 80's I owned a Yamaha MEP4. its name stands for Midi Event Processor 4 (it had 4 processors). it was very powerful but only programmable in hexadecimal. I had fun with it but maybe I am just weird............. Shocked Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well.. weird.. hmm.. I stilll often say that I miss programming the PPG Waveterm sequencer..... Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

this place is chockfull of nuts Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

play wrote:
here's the midi technical fanatics brainwashing center's version of the midi specification: http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/midispec.htm

Just stumbled onto this post. That link has been dead fora few years. Try: http://home.roadrunner.com/~jgglatt/tech/midispec.htm
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