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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:10 pm    Post subject: Latency Jam Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Anyone want to host a Latency Jam on Friday Night 03.27 ?
A few non-regulars are interested in trying it out.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd do it, but also, I'd like 'new' people to find their own way(s) for jamming with the 'primitive' means available for it .. for instance, there was an idea by Dr. Steve to not do the 'classical' latency jam but to do a 'ring jam' instead,, which would have another 'control structure' and would allow for 'rhytmic music' to be improvised.

So what do we have .. a large set of ports that people can connect to for streaming their 'sounds'. Also we should, I think, assume people to have a setup in which they can receive and transmit something else mixed with what was received, or an alteration of what was received. There is no apriori synching mechanism available.

What is possible within such constraints?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

or, basically, I would like to not impose my 'rules' on it Laughing (which in the 'classical latency jam' would be inevitable)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I like the ideas!
I think NINJAM is what would be needed for the rhythmic element. I have not used it, but listened to people using it and it's quite fantastic. It does allow users to interlock rhythmically, harmonically, etc.
It is available as one of the stock plugins inside Reaper.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm happy to host something, as long as it doesn't get too late for me (late meaning past midnight GMT).

I was also thinking at some point in the past that droning (in a key) would be easy to do. Or we could assign notes to people - everyone's only allowed to use two given notes for example. There are lots of ideas from Steve Reich and other avant guardists too.

Or we could have If -> Then rules based on what happens outside your window. Or, or... just jam. Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I believe that I may be able to participate in a latency jam.

I configured my system so that I can monitor the stream while sending to the stream. I presume that I send ONLY my content and not mix it with the stream's content, correct?

I can see how the latency would not allow for rhythmic jamming. If there is a version of NINJAM that runs on an old Macbook Pro ( 10.6.8 ) then I should be able to set it up (I run Cubase which supports AISO).

Will my current setup support latency jamming? Thanks for your help!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's the recording of the first jam. There should be more. Smile

Performers: Kevin Kissinger, Shane Morris and me.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That was great guys! Thanks for mixing and recording, Rob!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

oh I missed it, thought it was on saturday Sad
glad there is a recording.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There's another one tonight. Last night was more of a proof of concept.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And here is the recording of Saturday's jam.

Artists: Blue Hell, Shane Morris, PHOBoS, me.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The third one saw contributions from Blue Hell, cry9c, PHOBoS - and a little bit from me. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Are there going to be some more online jams?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

kkissinger wrote:
Are there going to be some more online jams?


There have been some problems with the chat room so it's hard to coordinate them for the moment. Confused

Once that's sorted I'm happy to do more though. There's also some work being done on alternative ways to mix streams which looks promising.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

robsol wrote:
There have been some problems with the chat room so it's hard to coordinate them for the moment. Confused

Once that's sorted I'm happy to do more though. There's also some work being done on alternative ways to mix streams which looks promising.


Thank you very much. These jams have been very enjoyable. Appreciate your efforts!

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