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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Apparently you can start garlic by separating the cloves and half-submerging them in a clear plastic cup on the windowsill. Might try that, and plant outside once they've started. I hear that winter and autumn is the time to start with garlic.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is absolutely true.

I grow garlic often. Each individual clove will grow a complete "fist" of a garlic with many cloves. Garlic likes cool weather and loamy soil.

You will get bigger garlics if you plant the large cloves instead of the small. The small taste just as good too.

One year I had so many plants, I had to do that braiding thing with the leaves to dry them.

The garlic is ready to harvest when it has grown and then the plant begins to wilt near the soil; it becomes flexible rather than stiff.

I just plant the cloves root end down in the soil. Water and they take off.

The soil should be moist, not wet.

In some areas, garlic can be grown two crops a year. Mild winters allow planting early for the first season and again after the summer heat has subsided.

Most pests naturally ignore garlic and onions.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Don't believe everything you saw in that video but yes, as jovianpyx already confirmed you can grow garlic from cloves.
I don't think there is any need for rooting in water first as mine usually sprout by themselves if I leave them too long anyway.
But it should work as it provides moist air which will stimulate root growth. I would not place them IN the water though just
above it. Putting them in damp perlite will probably work even better.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's another one of my houseplants I haven't shown before, although it has made a background appearance in some Moon Base studio pics.
It's a Dracaena fragrans massangeana and it's one of the plants I've had the longest apart from some cacti. I am not exactly sure when I got it but
I am pretty sure it is >10 years ago now. When I originally got it it had 2 side shoots coming from the big stem but in the time that I had it I
managed to almost kill it twice due to overwatering to the point it lost all its leaves, otherwise it would have probably been bigger by now.

It's doing great now though and the largest leaves are about 60cm in length. There are some brown tips on the lower leaves which can be
a sign of overwatering but I think that is because of low humidity. It only gets light from one direction so the leaves are all growing to that side.
It's still attached to the main stem and I think it might be possible to remove it but it helps with stabilizing it. It was time to water it again and I also
gave it a shower so a good opportunity to take some sexy photos.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

photo time:

The Atropa belladonna (deadly nightshade) plants are doing well and the Solanum dulcamara (bittersweet nightshade) that was started in 2017
from a tiny seed, has some nice fresh growth. The Pulmonaria (lungwort) is starting to look much healthier than last year, I guess it's happy
with its extra legroom.

None of the Mandragora officinarum (Mandrake) seeds have sprouted yet, but they can take some time and so far I've never had any luck with those.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Antirrhinum (snapdragons) look a bit yellowish like the longwort did last year so I added a bit of fertilizer but I don't know if that will help.
These were also started from seed in 2017 and I thought they were annuals. I put some seedpods in the pot this year and I did notice a lot of
tiny plants so that might have worked.

The Nicotiana alata (Tinkerbell F2 Hybride) (flowering dwarf tobacco) survived the winter and might have self sown bit. I see some conflicting
information online varying between annual/herbaceous perennials/short-lived tender perennial. Since they are still alive I think I can cross off
annual. They also didn't die back which would suggest it's not a herbaceous perennial but that might just be because of the mild winter.

Convallaris majalis (lily-of-the-valley) has some new shoots so that survived as well.

Aquilegia (columbine) is growing nicely but the Aconitum (monkshood) has died off again. I think it might have been overwatered.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

some of the Arctotis (african daisy) plants have survived although the ones in the other container are all dying like a lto of plants did last year.
There must be something in the soil. I spotted some flowerbuds so hopefully these will survive long enough.

The Dryopteris (ferns) have also started to wake up.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not a single clove sprouted on my windowsill. Well, a couple sprouted maybe a couple millimeters of root (one strand per clove, i.e. sweet bugger all), but no green to be seen at all.

As a last resort, I just jammed the stupid things in the dirt in the garden bed outside.

They've sprouted! Dirt, yes, just water, no. I'm planning on leaving them there for a few years to naturally spread themselves (I'm hoping they flower.)

Also got a piece of ginger root above the laundry cupboard, and I'm going to try and grow that in six months time or so, once summer arrives.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That doesn't surprise me.

A bit of warning about letting garlic just grow wild. I'm sure it will grow, and it will spread slowly, but garlic and onion plants do best size-wise when planted and harvested each season. Left to grow close together, the cloves will be small. If you like garlic, I would plant and harvest each season. They do flower, and I believe that the seeds are viable, but flowering can also sap the bulbs, so I harvest before flowering.

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A piece of ginger was slowly sprouting, in winter, so I stuck it in some dirt. Hopefully it's happy there, but I'm not expecting any real activity from it until spring.


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