Rumour: What will bring Clavia to the MusikMesse?

dasz · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:42 am Post subject:

yeah, it is good to see the guys whip up something really cool ... they do listen, but do not talk much ...
/Dasz

blue hell · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:25 am Post subject:

onosendai · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject:

Wout Blommers · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject:

Scannari · Joined: Nov 21, 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Lille

Hi! Sequencer.de gathered some informations here :

http://www.sequencer.de/syns/clavia/NordWave.html

-20 Voices
-4x Multitimbral
-fm, pwm, sync, ring, samples
-Waves : pulse, triangle, saw, sine, noise ram sample (64MB)
Samples and Waves uploadable via USB
Multisampling possible
64-67MB compressed data (about 5-6 times compared to WAV)
-2 OSCs
-1 Filter : lpf, hpf, bpf, more 2-4 Pole
-2 LFOs : triangle, sawtooth, random
-3 ENVs : 2x ADSR, 1x AD
-Arpeggiator
-modulation step sequencer
-FX with Reverb + Delay simulaneously
-49 Keys AT/VEL

Thought it would be a x2 multitimbral considering the two outputs...

Wout Blommers · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject:

Wout Blommers · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject:

Scannari · Joined: Nov 21, 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Lille

Of course, this is all according to the info they got on the project prototype. Embarassed

This was just elements of what Clavia tends to do imho as I understand this is a prototype and there is no official info at this time. Wink

I'm just excited about Clavia presenting a new synth! Very Happy

SynthLord · Joined: Sep 27, 2005 Posts: 49 Location: Tampa, FL

blue hell · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject:

Here is some info put out by Clavia.

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Tim Kleinert · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject:

I spent quite a while playing the prototype today again.

It's basically more or less a NL2, where the second oscillator has additional waveforms in form of wavetables and (multi-)samples (which are overwritable/reconfigurable via USB). And since Osc2 can FM/PM Osc2, you can frequency-modulate Osc1 with a sample coming from Osc2, which gives totally fresh timbres. And finally: FX! Delay, Overdrive and Reverb.

I loved it. I always missed FX on the lead series. The overdrive sounds great and is versatile too: you can make it scream obviously, but when used sparingly, it is very effective in giving classic monophonic analog patches that extra beef -makes it sound far more "analog" sounding than the NL series.

And the samples fill the sonic gaps left over by a standard VA engine perfectly. That you can freely make your own samples and dump them into the synth is fantastic too.

It's just a prototype. But I loved the overal concept and are looking forward to it. I think it fits perfectly into Clavias product line. The chance that I'll buy one is very high.

Oh -and hi Jan & Wout & Rob. Was wonderful to meet you in person! Smile

best,
tim

dorremifasol · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject:

I would be happier if there was a G2 update in the horizon... Sad

Did Clavia mention anything about it?

This new toy doesn't seem too impressive to me... unless it is cheap, VERY cheap. A modular synthesizer like the G2 with wavetable oscillators, THAT would be impressive.

blue hell · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject:

G2DREAM · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject:

spanky · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject:

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject:

Wout Blommers · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

Wout Blommers · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject:

Next Donuts Year?

Wout

seraph · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject:

Rob · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject:

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Clavia CEOs Hans Nordelius and Magnus Kjellander showing the Nord Wave

Here is what I was told by them in Frankfurt:

What is sure about the Nord Wave model shown in Frankfurt:

1) What is shown in Frankfurt is an alpha model, meaning that all specifications are still subject to change. Some knobs and functions might disappear and/or extra knobs and functions might be added in a later stage of development.

What is sure about the concept:

1) It is a fully fledged live synthesizer, not just a sampler or rompler.

2) It has two slots.

3) The second oscillator can be configured as a standard oscillator with standard waveforms, or as a wavetable oscillator, or as an oscillator playing samples. These samples can be multilayered and assigned to keyzones.
Oscillator two behaves as an oscillator, even when playing wavetables or samples. So, modulations using wavetables and samples are possible, just like when standard waveforms would be used. The sound of oscillator two will be mixed with oscillator one and then be routed through the filter, envelope VCA, tone control and through the EFX section.
The wavetable functions and sample functions are still under development, the aim being to make them as dynamic as possible. The Shape modulation function for oscillator two is still under development and there are many possible ways to let the Shape parameter dynamically influence both wavetables and samples. The final choice will be for the musically most useable type of modulation that will fit the computational resources of the hardware. What it will be is not yet decided.

4) Wavetables and samples can be downloaded by USB and stored in flash memory. It is not decided yet how much flash memory will be in the synthesizer. A simple editor program plus a library of stock samples will be supplied by the Nord Wave. The editor program will import .wav files, so there is no limit to the type of sounds that one can put in the Nord Wave sample store memory.

5) The amount of voices is still undecided, as this depends largely on the final optimization phase of the processor code.

6) There are four morph groups. There will be a facility to record morphing over some time, imagine to press a record button, start tweaking e.g. the modwheel and then press a record button or stop button to stop recording. Then the modwheel movements can be replayed, controlling all knobs that are assigned to be morphed by the modwheel. This morph record function is still under development, so it is not yet decided how it will finally work, but it will be something like this description.

7) No LED-ring knobs. LED-ring knobs are quite expensive and by not using them the Nord Wave will be much cheaper. Instead, the sonic possibilities are much increased. This way the Nord Wave is the perfect step up from the Nordlead 1 and 2 or similar synthesizers.

Cool

Aim to start production is somewhere next summer.

Some more definite Clavia news:

The Nordlead 3 is out of production, due to RoHS issues. Some parts, like the display, did not comply with the new RoHS regulations, so it cannot be sold anymore in a big part of the world. The Nord Wave is not a remake of the Nordlead 3, it is in fact a new concept and the start of a new product line. The Nordlead 2X will remain in production and so will the three octave G2 and the G2 Engine. When G2X stock is sold out there will probably no new production run for the G2X.

The retail price of the Nord Wave is as yet undecided, it will probably be somewhere between the price of the Nordlead 2X and the three octave G2, but new features might still be added to the Nord Wave that could influence the final price.
The Nord Wave borrows some features from the Nordlead 3, like the Unison mode, but has many extra features when compared to the Nordleads, like the wavetables, samples and the built in FX, tone control and tube overdrive emulation. The tone control can make it sound with a sharper bite or instead warmer and more mellow as the Nordleads. The delay and reverb sound very natural and lively, the tube overdrive emulation has a real nice grunge. This gives the Nord Wave a much wider and more controllable tonal character as the Nordleads. And when using samples much will depend on the samples used, of course.

/Rob

Rob · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject:

3phase · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject:

When i understood wright there are no sampling possebilitys with the machine itself? in fact in times with thousends of preset samples availible not many people will want to sample themself anymore anyway...but i would miss that however...

Biggest advantage in the concept is the low wight so its intereting as an instrumenrt to carry around. There are no lightwight keyboardsamplers on the market...its the first in a small package... The conception to have a classical syntharchitecture with a sample oscillator is not new... look on the Emulator 2 and you see what i am talking about...
But in a smal synth? thats new...