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EraSer
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:21 am Post subject:
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I've seen and heard this random and crazy voltage generator #3 Standard WoggleBug .I've put it in my DIY list.
Before I need some info about it: first of all, does it run with 9V battery?
It has differents outputs:each output give a different sound
Is there a PCB layout? |
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synth_ollie
Joined: Sep 11, 2006 Posts: 149 Location: sweden
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EraSer
Joined: Apr 12, 2006 Posts: 82 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:43 am Post subject:
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thank you synth_ollie for informations.
a curiosity:could I run it with 9v? |
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bugbrand
Joined: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 846 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:44 am Post subject:
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Synth_Ollie --- you star! I've been wanting to do one of these for ages (hmm, actually, better not launch straight into making one 'cos I shouldn't let myself get sidetracked from other work...)
9v supply -- it probably *could* run off two 9v batteries -- maybe check the datasheet of the LM398 'cos that may not be happy at +/- 9v - everything else should work pretty much fine with a bipolar 9v supply.. _________________ http://www.bugbrand.co.uk
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EraSer
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:04 am Post subject:
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bugbrand wrote: |
9v supply -- it probably *could* run off two 9v batteries -- maybe check the datasheet of the LM398 'cos that may not be happy at +/- 9v - everything else should work pretty much fine with a bipolar 9v supply.. |
I've found datasheet LF398monolitich S&H circuit (are you sure about LM398? ).It can operate from +/- 5V to +/- 18 supplies.So do you think I could use tranquilly +/- 9V? |
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fluxmonkey
Joined: Jun 24, 2005 Posts: 708 Location: cleve
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:46 am Post subject:
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I FINALLY got mine (a dual) working last night. had a number of errors on the PCB, which i traced out and patched one by one... still no joy, poked at it all weekend and finally found out that the neg. power line on my bench supply had wiggled loose at the source. duh. now, much fun.
there are 3 CVs out plus 3 tones, all different (step, smoothed, and woggled CV; step and woggle tone, "ring" tone). the patch i wound up with last night used one of the tone outs mixed w/ an external VCO driven by one of the CVs... vulcan harmony.
i'll try it out on +/- 9v tonight, but i'm not sure it'll run unmodified... what's the current draw for the vactrols?
bbob |
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vtl5c3
Joined: Sep 08, 2006 Posts: 425 Location: PDX
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:08 am Post subject:
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There's a PCB layout here:
http://web.pdx.edu/~rfahl/img/Wog/
I've built a couple of them. The wogglebug is a cornucopia of strangeness. By that I mean good strange. |
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mono-poly
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject:
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Ok i made a modcan panel layout.
It needs a double size panel from cydustries.
Unfortunely there is a little space left.
But it won't fit good in a single one.
Can someone make some beter scalings a la modcan?
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v-un-v
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mono-poly
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject:
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Yeah that looks pretty neat.
But i think the lines and the numbers need to be a big thicker.
Because when i use them on a panel they are scaled down and can't be read that easy. |
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mono-poly
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject:
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Lol till 11 you need to start at 0
Here is an example
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v-un-v
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject:
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These examples aren't actual photographs, they've been done in an illustration application. I can't get an exact replica without seeing an actual front panel, but I can supply you with a dxf. You can get a dxf viewer on the net. _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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v-un-v
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject:
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the inside hole is exactly M8- the width for a standard potentiometer _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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mono-poly
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject:
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Can you make the outer circle also thick?
And please put it on the forum as hpgl?
Maybe also the first one with thinner lines.
I got the graveyard shift now but then i can check out tomorow of it looks better in my schaeffer designs.
Thanks ! |
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v-un-v
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject:
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mono-poly wrote: | please put it on the forum as hpgl?
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An HPGL file is a file system used by Hewlett Packard for plotters.
I don't have the means to support hpgl.
Sorry. _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject:
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v-un-v wrote: | I don't have the means to support hpgl. |
What ? Modern CAD software can't do plotter output anymore _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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v-un-v
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: | v-un-v wrote: | I don't have the means to support hpgl. |
What ? Modern CAD software can't do plotter output anymore |
DXF only AFAIK.
AutoCAD still plots but not hpgl.
If anyone knows any different please tell us _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject:
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Can you do Gerber output ? It seems easier to find gerber to hpgl than autocad to hpgl freeware. Or is gerber for pcb's only ? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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v-un-v
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: | Can you do Gerber output ? It seems easier to find gerber to hpgl than autocad to hpgl freeware. Or is gerber for pcb's only ? |
hmm gerber, possibly- but not from AutoCAD. Perhaps an older version of autocad would do it? R12? dunno
a gerber file is very similar. I think the best thing to do would be to contact Schaffer. The other thing is the line thickness. I think that dxf is fine for knowing where exactly to put the holes in, but you would still have to rely on transfers for the artwork. Schaffer shallow drills into the surface of the metal. crude but it looks good- especially when the surface is painted _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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mono-poly
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject:
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A bmp is fine to.
I got a tool to convert it to hpgl.
I need hpgl to import graphics in the software from schaeffer. |
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v-un-v
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:11 am Post subject:
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mono-poly wrote: | A bmp is fine to.
I got a tool to convert it to hpgl.
I need hpgl to import graphics in the software from schaeffer. |
hoorah!
resolution? what resolution do you need?? _________________ ACHTUNG!
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DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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mono-poly
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:49 am Post subject:
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I think the bigger, the better.
I can scale it down in the software from Schaeffer. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:25 am Post subject:
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To come back on the hpgl item, even when its not any good anymore, but for completeness, I found :
Quote: | You should be able to 'print to file' and that should be a PLT file.
In Acad, start the plot command, and on the first screen ( of teh two: plot settings ) there shoudl be a 'plot to file' button in the loser right corner. Click that, and the plot file will be exportetd out as a .PLT file.. then choose your 'printing area and scale' and click OK..
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here. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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ickystay
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:00 am Post subject:
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I've etched and populated a board for one of these. The pots on the schematic don't have their names. Can someone help please? Thanks. |
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