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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Help me - midi out Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi all

please help me

my G2 not transmit AfterTouch and PitchWheel to Midi Out !!!!

arpegiator, note, velocity and controller working fine

very thanks

sorry my bad english ( please patch example )
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just a guess can't really find it in the manual, but maybe in "synth settings" sending controllers is off ? Well its the closest thing I could find.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This function not implemented in OS

Transmit only controllers, note, velocity, arpegio, midi clock

After touch and pitch wheel not controllers, this is extended midi parameter

New typ for Clavia developer OS 1.5

- update this very big bug Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Moving this to the bug list.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My G2 transmits the pitch stick data OK, no problem here.

Regarding the aftertouch, I use it in an unusual way, but this may help you too:

I like to add some slewing to the aftertouch response so it has a longer decay after you release the note. This is more musical on patches that have a long release, so the aftertouch doesn't suddenly shut off while the note is still decaying. To do this, I use the "DEVICE" module in a patch to access the aftertouch signal, and then patch this signal through an envelope follower. I then patch the EnvFol output to a Midi Send module and assign the processed aftertouch signal to a cc#.

If you can't get the aftertouch to work in the normal way, you could use this method of using the DEVICE module and re-assigning the aftertouch signal to a cc# and set the receiving device to use this same cc#.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

im not use G2 but G2 engine

master key Kawai K1-II

Kawai ---- PC working PitchBend and AT OK
Kawai ---- G2engine -----PC not transmited


if use G2engine like midi processor
( other controllers working OK )
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

megerov wrote:
im not use G2 but G2 engine

master key Kawai K1-II

Kawai ---- PC working PitchBend and AT OK
Kawai ---- G2engine -----PC not transmited


if use G2engine like midi processor
( other controllers working OK )


So you mean Pitchbend and AT from the Kawai is going into the Engine, but is not coming back out? Maybe I do not understand, but it sounds like maybe you should be using the midi THRU connector on the Engine, not the midi OUT connector?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

im using midiout connector not miditrue

miditrue only send direct event from master key ( midi in )

if connect miditrue data transmited ok but not G2 midi processed

if connect midiout data transmited ok but not transmited Pitch Bend and AT
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

megerov wrote:
im using midiout connector not miditrue

miditrue only send direct event from master key ( midi in )

if connect miditrue data transmited ok but not G2 midi processed

if connect midiout data transmited ok but not transmited Pitch Bend and AT


Ah, I understand. That IS a problem. And the idea of the midi modules could not be used because those will only access the pitch bend & AT data that is generated inside the G2, not from something connected to the midi in, and the Engine does not generate these signals.

If this really is a bug and the G2 is losing the data that is coming in, then maybe there is a way to use a simple midi merge box to combine the pitchbend & AT from the Kawai with the final processed midi from the G2? I know it is clumsy, but maybe it would work. Wow, that is a major bug.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

davep wrote:
maybe there is a way to use a simple midi merge box to combine the pitchbend & AT from the Kawai with the final processed midi from the G2?


Not so simple I guess, at least in general, unless the merger could be made to filter certain data.

It really makes the G2 less useful as a MIDI processor.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

im use my creamware card like merge box and filter some midi event ( creamware midi merge module and midi filter )

Idea for new G2 module

midi merger module
midi filter module
sysex register in/out module

what new info about new G2 OS ?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

megerov wrote:
what new info about new G2 OS ?


Nothing I'm affraid ...

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