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Does your music dance in your body?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Poll: Does your music dance in your body? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Do you feel your music as implicit/explicit motion/force within your physical body?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Basically always (not just my music, either... pretty much everything I listen to).

If my music doesn't get into my bones that way, then I know I have to throw that piece out.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If the music is rhythmic, then I certainly "feel" it, and may even want to move with the music. If the music is slow, meditative, or ambient then it tends to be a relaxing and/or cerebral experience for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yup...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it depends. i think my method of creating music is very intuitive, yet somehow the final results are usually rather intellectual in a weird way. maybe i just have intellectual emotions or something nonsensical like that.

i have friends whose music makes me cry on a regular basis though, and i have cried at things i find beautiful/poignant since i started sobbing the first time i heard canon in d when i was 5. Embarassed

so i suspect that i'm still too afraid of conventionality to go ahead and pursue beauty for its own sake. maybe i'm too hung up on being "original"?

also i try to use music as communication, in a way. words are almost always important to my music, at least abstractly. the stuff on my myspace is like that. (myspace.com/skippyvodka)

i have made some pieces that are exceptions to the abovementioned, but the only one that comes to mind right now is one i wrote specifically dedicated to someone else, using a demo of renoise that i had just downloaded that day, never having used any kind of sequencer before.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Feeling music
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Sometimes I compose music that I feel immediately.

Sometimes I write or compose music that I don't feel immediately. I may continue to modify it as I listen and learn it, and refine the form to bring out what it has to offer.

There may be a feeling from a rhythm, but might also be a sensation from a texture of a sound.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sometimes yes, sometimes not..
I guess it's just how much I let the groove flows in..
Sometimes A very rubato or ambiency sound/music can be very groovie to me
(no clear beats)
But it may be because I'm interested in that specific sound/music.

I'm thinking a lot about this issue.
I guess it involves the word "groove"..
And many times, grooves doesn't come in repeating phrases or bars, I can feel.
But can't explain lolol.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

not always my music dances (in my body) but certainly it vibrates Exclamation
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

"I play my body electric"

Yeah... I'm not much of an outwards dancer, more inwards, but I do feel electric when I get going.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The body electric sing "I"

I think, for me, an important aspect of music is an unambiguous sense of mind/body unity. I.e. that's one of the things I want to get out of the music I listen to, at least most of the time, and certainly whenever I write. Hence music that does not get into my body is generally of little interest.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bbinkovitz wrote:

so i suspect that i'm still too afraid of conventionality to go ahead and pursue beauty for its own sake..


I wonder how one would even do that, how would one conceptualize the process or the goal?

bbinkovitz wrote:

maybe i'm too hung up on being "original"?


In all honesty it isn't clear to me what it means to be "original." It would be interesting to hear what that means to people.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bachus wrote:
bbinkovitz wrote:

so i suspect that i'm still too afraid of conventionality to go ahead and pursue beauty for its own sake..


I wonder how one would even do that, how would one conceptualize the process or the goal?


i mean that i am afraid to write pretty songs. if a song flows nicely and is pretty and pleasant to listen to, i'm always afraid that is a bad thing that will make it boring. kleinemelodie is sort of an exception to that. i wrote the pretty melody, but then i added small parts intentionally slightly "off", in order to put the harmonious nature of the song into relief with some minorly jarring notes.

but mainly i am afraid of music that is pretty or listenable, while also disliking music that lacks any melodic quality at all.

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maybe i'm too hung up on being "original"?


In all honesty it isn't clear to me what it means to be "original." It would be interesting to hear what that means to people.


i don't even really know what i mean by "original", only that the music i make never seems to be enough of it for me.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bbinkovitz wrote:
i mean that i am afraid to write pretty songs. if a song flows nicely and is pretty and pleasant to listen to, i'm always afraid that is a bad thing that will make it boring. kleinemelodie is sort of an exception to that. i wrote the pretty melody, but then i added small parts intentionally slightly "off", in order to put the harmonious nature of the song into relief with some minorly jarring notes.


I can't say I'm "afraid" to write "pretty songs" but I'm certainly loath to write fluff and I do hate being bored by a piece of music (especially my own). Life by its very nature is full of intensity and tension and art completely devoid of such generally seems lifeless to me. The technique you used for kleinemelodie is one I too have used though often the elements of "contention" are conceived together or at least before anything goes on paper.

As for "original" sometimes I wish my music were less conventional, but that's an intellectual thing and doesn't influence what I actually write. The string quartet is something of an exception with this weird sense of deja vu I keep having.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I do feel it, specifically in my pelvis http://electro-music.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

booo my smily didnt work..... whimper...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't dance. I tried really hard to "get into it" at a Gameboy concert (Bitshifter really did rock!), but it's mostly head-nodding that I do ("Like I'm saying YES to every beat!" - Homer Simpson).

My wife asked me what I imagined when I listen to a song, and I told her that I imagined how it would be arranged in Fruity Loops. She said, "How sad." Sad

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

haha isn't that the truth

I always think of how a song was produced when I hear it.. I always think of what could have been done better (if anything)

and our women shall always consider us losers... boooooooooo

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yes, and it makes me mad sometimes. It's the rhtymn that drives me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Warning; opinions ahead!

1) If she thinks you're a "loser " she's not "yours".

2) if you can't dance to it (aren't moved by it?) you don't understand it. That's not to say you have to; it sufices to be able to.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kassen wrote:
Warning; opinions ahead!

1) If she thinks you're a "loser " she's not "yours".


If a person is yours aren't you admitting to slave holding?

"My wife...", "My S.O.", etc. assert a supposedly equal and symmetrical relationship (at least in this country). But I have to say the phrase "My woman" always strikes me as a little creepy.

Oh, and I hope this won't be taken as sexist but, renevanderwouden, you have a nice ass.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Oh, and I hope this won't be taken as sexist but, renevanderwouden, you have a nice ass.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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If a person is yours aren't you admitting to slave holding?


Hmmmm, ended lots of letters with "yours, Kas.". Will all the people I send that to now start giving me orders?


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"My wife...", "My S.O.", etc. assert a supposedly equal and symmetrical relationship (at least in this country). But I have to say the phrase "My woman" always strikes me as a little creepy.


Hmmmm, I have the oposite. I tend to dislike "my wife" as that phrase will so often be in a context I experience as negative and posessive. A friend of mine consistently uses "my woman" (well, in Dutch and using a very oldfashioned word for "woman") and because he so clearly breaks convention there it implicidly shows he's aware of the issue.

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Oh, and I hope this won't be taken as sexist but, renevanderwouden, you have a nice ass.


Brilliant.

I'm a bit surprised by these comments, I was expecting a lot more debate on the "dance" one.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kassen wrote:

Hmmmm, I have the oposite. I tend to dislike "my wife" as that phrase will so often be in a context I experience as negative and posessive.


OT note: english "husband" comes from norse "husbonde" (still in archaic use in Scandinavia today), which literally means "master of the house", i.e. a patriarch of not just the immediate family, but the entire (usually farmer's) household - often a particular kind of isolated microvillage (farm) that has been a tradition in northern Europe. Possibly because of that, husband/wife has more of a master/servant ring to me than other language constructions.

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Kassen wrote:

Hmmmm, ended lots of letters with "yours, Kas.". Will all the people I send that to now start giving me orders?


Well dang! Wish I'd gotten one. My gutters need cleaning and I'm getting too old to do it myself.

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Hmmmm, I have the oposite. I tend to dislike "my wife" as that phrase will so often be in a context I experience as negative and posessive. A friend of mine consistently uses "my woman" (well, in Dutch and using a very oldfashioned word for "woman") and because he so clearly breaks convention there it implicidly shows he's aware of the issue.


Perhaps it's culturally localized. Here in the US South "my woman" is generally the "red neck possessive" form.

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I'm a bit surprised by these comments, I was expecting a lot more debate on the "dance" one.


Me too. Even though music need not have a beat for me to feel it stirring internally I have a lot of trouble with some electronic music on those terms and was curious as to the extent that this dimension of musical response might be seen as irrelevant to "arythmic" electronic composers.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I found that my dancing to certain genres improved a lot after I tried writing that kind of music, as well as the reverse.

Also; would you buy a car by a non-driver? Would you get a video game made by someone who never plays those?

I don't think this is limited to just "music with beats", ask any modern ballet dancer. Heck; whole musical cultures revolve around dancing to solo guitar or solo violin (midletereanian gypsi music comes to mind, for example).

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