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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: same old octonian or just same old same old or...
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This is a fragment of a midi dump, virtually no expression etc. The few notes that should be pizz are arco. This is my first attempt at making substantial use of the octonian scale and I keep getting the feeling that I've heard it all before. The other movements are already forming in my mind and I'm going to complete it in any case for sanities sake. But I'm curious if others have the same reaction.

This is written for string quartet. The final work will be "electro" only in the sense that it was written in Sibelius and out of a felt neurological need to externalize internal states (I refer you to Howard's comments at EM 2007).

Thanks for your reactions of any sort.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What can I say? Shocked
This is wonderful! This is absolutely stunning! Magnificent! This is music! I love it!



Uh... I want more! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: same old octonian or just same old same old or...
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bachus wrote:
octonian scale

this is wonderful. excellent Exclamation do you mean octophonic scale Question

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: same old octonian or just same old same old or...
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seraph wrote:
bachus wrote:
octonian scale

this is wonderful. excellent Exclamation do you mean octophonic scale Question


Uh yea Rolling Eyes senility set in.

And thanks for the generous comments. Ive never had the sense of having heard it all before while writing and it's a little unnerving.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Octatonic I guess ?

Octophonic, or octaphonic I guess, should refer to the use of eight sound( source)s.

Whatever the word, the music sounds beautiful to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sounds great. More, more, more...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Another fantastic musical passage from Bachus!

Brings to mind the Bartok String quartets.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Don't know much about all this advanced scale stuff... but this sounds GOOD!

I'm in on the demand for more, more, more Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

kkissinger wrote:
Another fantastic musical passage from Bachus!

Brings to mind the Bartok String quartets.


Ah! Of course! At least it didn't turn out to a rehashig of Korngold Laughing

What I'm hearing of the 2nd mvmt sounds like Ives, the 3rd like Bachus. Maybe I will be able to fob it off as post-modern Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Great music.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Great, but then again, I would not expect anything less then.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: same old octonian or just same old same old or...
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bachus wrote:
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bachus wrote:
octonian scale

this is wonderful. excellent Exclamation do you mean octophonic scale Question


Uh yea Rolling Eyes senility set in.

And thanks for the generous comments. Ive never had the sense of having heard it all before while writing and it's a little unnerving.

In my utter ignorance I had to find the definition of an octophonic scale. The term octophonic seems to be almost exclusively used for 8 channel sound systems, whereas a search for octatonic seem to assert that this is the widely accepted term for the scale, which makes sense. I did, however, find a few uses of the term octaphonic and octonic for the scale, among several thousand uses of octatonic. Octonion, on the other hand is a hypercomplex number. Not very important , I know... Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: same old octonian or just same old same old or...
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DrJustice wrote:

In my utter ignorance I had to find the definition of an octophonic scale.


check this out Exclamation

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: same old octonian or just same old same old or...
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In my utter ignorance I had to find the definition of an octophonic scale. The term octophonic seems to be almost exclusively used for 8 channel sound systems, whereas a search for octatonic seem to assert that this is the widely accepted term for the scale, which makes sense. I did, however, find a few uses of the term octaphonic and octonic for the scale, among several thousand uses of octatonic.


Octaphonic as a term for a scale just doesn't make sense. But the same holds for other things in music, like black keys on a keyboard, using a score instead of a tape recorder or using "octave" for a step of 12 semi tones; it's just plain nuts. Not that there is anything wrong with being nuts, but it does make things a bit confusing to me every now and then.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lets try octatonic scale

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
lets try octatonic scale

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That's what I suggested, some messages ago Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's Western music Jim, but not as we know it...

I'm left wanting to hear the whole piece now.

That is the most interesting piece of music I have heard all week.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
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lets try octatonic scale

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That's what I suggested, some messages ago Very Happy

Uh, ...yea. meds have been out of titration brain working not good too much existential dissonance. :icon for drooling and looking stupid:

So a belated thanks

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bachus wrote:
meds have been out of titration brain working not good too much existential dissonance.


Hope you'll find a good balance soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very good, this is exciting!!

Really nice and inspiring to hear your work, I read some things about the use of these scales in messiaen's writings on serial composition. It's great to actually listen to these scales instead of just reading about all the possibilities! Very Happy

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