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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: My second effort! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK, I am learning to play my first synth as well as recording on Cubase. As yet I have no clue about MIDI so everything I do is strictly audio. So tonite I spent about 5 hrs trying to do tracks that were at least somewhat rhythmic & in time. I know there are a lot of mistakes in this track but if I waited till it was perfect it would take another month (I posted my first track a month ago. Laughing )

So here is my second effort. Yeah I know it sucks, but Noobs have to start with something Razz


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well... Laura
I wouldn't say it sucks Very Happy It sounds pleasantly "80's" to me. I would try to tighten up the rhythm tracks and try out longer songs that evolve more.
just my 2 cents thumright

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is fun! Keep working on such small pieces and explore rythms as well as silly and nonsensical ideas.
Keep in mind that apart from creating your own material you should also have fun learning stuff.. rehearsing.. playing along to various types of music and whatever.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I like that! Very Happy

There's something vaguely "Kraut-rocky" about it, or like it belongs to a university programme on who machines work or something Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

We should soon consider recommending some stuff by Rodelius and company?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes and Drexciya and µ-ziq too;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drexciya

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Paradinas

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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well... Laura
I wouldn't say it sucks Very Happy It sounds pleasantly "80's" to me. I would try to tighten up the rhythm tracks and try out longer songs that evolve more.
just my 2 cents thumright


thanks. I love those 80s sounds. 80s music is awesome.

My question, do people usually do this kind of stuff with MIDI and does that create a flawless rhythm? Again, I have no clue how to actually do a MIDI track.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
This is fun! Keep working on such small pieces and explore rythms as well as silly and nonsensical ideas.
Keep in mind that apart from creating your own material you should also have fun learning stuff.. rehearsing.. playing along to various types of music and whatever.


Yeah, recording stuff is helping me learn how to play the thing! ps. the only use I have found for the 'arpeggio' function is as a suggestion for learning to play the arpeggio myself!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

laura woodswalker wrote:
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80s music is awesome.


Shocked

I wouldn't go that far! Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Let me understand this... you recorded this as tracks, right? No MIDI sequencing.

I like hearing the fun you're having. Seraph is right in saying you need to "tighten"... there is a knack to playing with yourself (stop sniggering back there, you lot) that practice helps. (I told you lot to shut it!).

Anyway, yes, a MIDI sequencer will help to some extent, but it is NOT that simple. It has a lot more to do with following your own rhythm.

I always try to do the primary track first. For me it is usually the main melodic part. You've heard my music so that's easy to pick out in my case. From there, it is listening. I've played in bands for a long time, so I don't have a problem listening for the beat. You should record your main idea with a click track, then erase the click track once you've laid enough stuff down to hold its own.

Like I said, the idea is fun. It's so happy. I'm like struttin down the avenue with it. But you can easily make it better. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EdisonRex wrote:
Let me understand this... you recorded this as tracks, right? No MIDI sequencing.


I really have no clue about MIDI, all I know is that it is computer signals so I spoze you could tell it to set up a beat of 160bpm and then make your chords follow that. Or whatever beat you want and make your drums fit flawlessly.

As yet I haven't figured out the practical stuff how to make that happen. I figure just learning to play keys, use keybd functions and record trax is enough for my overloaded brain at present.

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I like hearing the fun you're having. Seraph is right in saying you need to "tighten"... there is a knack to playing with yourself (stop sniggering back there, you lot) that practice helps. (I told you lot to shut it!).


I'd like to learn more about that. If you are just fooling around, do you start off with a basic melody, chord progression, or rhythm?

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the click track is the metronome, right?
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Like I said, the idea is fun. It's so happy. I'm like struttin down the avenue with it. But you can easily make it better. Wink


Yeah. One thing I like in composition is contrast. Chords that have unusual voicings, or instruments that have contrasting textures like distortion guitar & synth pads.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EdisonRex wrote:
Let me understand this... you recorded this as tracks, right? No MIDI sequencing.


laura woodswalker wrote:

I really have no clue about MIDI, all I know is that it is computer signals so I spoze you could tell it to set up a beat of 160bpm and then make your chords follow that. Or whatever beat you want and make your drums fit flawlessly.


I guess we'll have to introduce you to MIDI. There is some reading involved, but MIDI has been around since you and I were young. You are not at this point using a sequencer, are you.

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I'd like to learn more about that. If you are just fooling around, do you start off with a basic melody, chord progression, or rhythm?


I usually go with what is strongest. If it is the main piano based part, okay, but sometimes, the accompaniment works better as the first track. It's something you have to feel, actually. It's very dependent on what you are doing. A lot of folks do the drums first. I don't usually, myself.

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the click track is the metronome, right?


yeah, usually. Some folks put whose drum tracks into their metronomes.

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Yeah. One thing I like in composition is contrast. Chords that have unusual voicings, or instruments that have contrasting textures like distortion guitar & synth pads.


Looking forward to more. Wink

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EdisonRex wrote:

I guess we'll have to introduce you to MIDI. There is some reading involved, but MIDI has been around since you and I were young. You are not at this point using a sequencer, are you.


A sequencer would be something like Cubase where you can arrange tracks?

Yes, I have Cubase LE. Also a Yamaha keyboard that is MIDI capable, and I also have a Lexicon recording interface which has both USB and MIDI jacks. I also have MIDI cables and a son who uses Reason, but he's usually away at school Cool .

The only thing I don't have is enough time to do everything! Rolling Eyes Perhaps one of these days....

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