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Haible Vokoder?
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numbernone



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lets keep a positive attitude, IT WILL BECOME REALITY!

And I am in for one as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am definately in for one!!!
-justin
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

From an earlier vocoder version.
(These files have been up for a while, but I don't think I have them linked from my site):

http://home.debitel.net/user/jhaible/what_is_this.jpg

http://home.debitel.net/user/jhaible/jh_talking_synth.mp3

http://home.debitel.net/user/jhaible/jh_throat_1.mp3

http://home.debitel.net/user/jhaible/jh_freeze_ohh_1.mp3

http://home.debitel.net/user/jhaible/jh_freeze_ahh_1.mp3

JH.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cool! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Freeze sounds are just beautifull!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sorry if i missed it. how many bands will your vocoder provide? i was looking for 14+ bands.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i forgot: what internal carrier signals will the vocoder provide? i took a look at the ELRAD vocoder these days and started thinking about building it. now i found this thread. if you offered a PCB for such a project i would be definetely in for one, jürgen (and i now how large such a PCB would have to be!).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Elrad Vocoder is the same as the ETI / Powertran vocoder, designed by Tim Orr who has also (co- (?)) designed the EMS vocoders.

The samples and picture from above are from a project that has similar filters as the ETI, but is otherwise different in many ways.

My vocoder will have at least 14 filters, maybe more - that's not yet decided. I tend to think the filters are already good enough, and additional effort should go into other, equally important features.

I haven't thought about an internal carrier signal much yet. Every serious application needs an external carrier, unless you build a whole polykeyboard into the vocoder as Korg and Roland did.
But then again, with DIY *you* decide what will be internal or external.

JH.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

convinced. Very Happy
i am in for one.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wow...I'd love to build one of those...
Quite selfishly, I'm hoping you don't make this available until sometime next year, as I won't have that kind of money for DIY this year... Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jhaible wrote:
I haven't thought about an internal carrier signal much yet. Every serious application needs an external carrier, unless you build a whole polykeyboard into the vocoder as Korg and Roland did.
But then again, with DIY *you* decide what will be internal or external.
JH.

*i* will incorporate a noise source at least, i think... Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I will build one! At least, I will BUY one. Years ago I played an EMS 2000 and your "freeze ah" and "freeze oh" samples sound as beautiful as it sounded.

I have the MAM 11 band Vocoder and a soviet vocoder/strings machine that has become problematic lately. Knowing that some time I will have a Haible Vocoder, now I can think of trying to repair it (replacing capacitors, new power supply). I have schematics but they are in russian. Shocked

I don't think I will make it, so it will be great to build your vocoder, Jürgen!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Love that throat sample. If I had a vocoder that did that, I would never leave the house. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

whoa those samples sounds grrrrreat.
me want vokoder yes
mmmmm

oh super man
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

a.b.o.z. wrote:
oh super man

laurie anderson was the cause i always wanted to own a sampler, a vocoder and an harmonizer. Very Happy
i had a dynacord 6 band vocoder (i once sold it) and a DDS1 (one of the first available in germany, i still own it).

but who cares? i will have a JH vocoder!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

fonik wrote:
a.b.o.z. wrote:
oh super man

laurie anderson was the cause i always wanted to own a sampler, a vocoder and an harmonizer. Very Happy


I know what you mean. I get goosebumps every time I hear that song.
I'll play it now. yeah!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

!!!!COUNT ME IN FOR A SET OF PCBS!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is too good to be untrue.
I'm in. Very Happy

Regarding vocoders, nobody ever mentions the
Buchla Programmable Spectral Processor Model 296:
http://buchla.com/historical/b200/296-spectral.html
Any comments? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

one suggstion:

it would be nice to have an insertpoint behind the Filters and bevore the envelope followers.
so you can use the filters as i understand as a Filterbank, and what counts for me:
you can use the envelope Followers independently.
( all as far i understand)

my personal Idea is that it would be nice to have a Matrixmixer to make own Drumsubmixes for each Band, and feed them directly to the envelope followers.
I think this might give one more time more poossibilitys about rhytmisizing Synthstuff.
Also with other sources than Drums interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Hemi,

funny, that´s exactly what I thought would be THE feature a vocoder should have that I can have really lots of fun with it...
I already sent this "feature request" to Jürgen a couple of weeks ago, and totally forgot to reply to his question where the inserts should be located.
But now you answered the question Very Happy

Best wishes,

Tobias.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Would you really expect that individual band triggering would be that much more fun that you already get if you put your drum sounds through the analysis input as usual?

Maybe, but... I'm not sure. And you could always do the same thing by playing more sine-like tones in the analysis input. Smile

(OTOH, anything could be interesting & useful when it comes to vocoders) Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

zthee wrote:
The Freeze sounds are just beautifull!


I'd love to hear one which says "puuuuuuutiiiiiiiiin"!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't know how I have missed this topic before, would love to see this finished and maybe by that time I'll have some money to afford it.
Great sounds samples Jürgen.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would gladly buy one when its available....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yes me too
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