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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: help figuring out patch Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I feel really dumb asking this, but I'm unable to get the general parameters for a particular sound - I'm attaching an mp3 - it's the repeated 4-note pattern. Every waveform I try sounds too buzzy (or the LPF is closed so much my patch sounds muted) except the triangle which isn't strong enough. If anyone has any ideas it would be great. I'm trying this on a Prophet 08 but also have an MS-20 and MS-50. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ahhh... right.. Michael Hoenig, the Departure LP. Excellent!

The classic MS series could never quite get there.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Imagine if Edgar has split instead Peter and Michael had stepped in. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Btw.. those sounds there come from a Minimoog.
You can easily get close with a basic dotcom system.

Hey.. the old Synapse are online somewhere..

http://www.cyndustries.com/synapse/synapse.cfm?pc=43&folder=march1978&pic=21

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, it is such a fantastic album.

Figured it was probably a Moog. Would it help me come any closer to build the Yusynth Minimoog filter and incorporate that with the MS-50?

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Btw.. those sounds there come from a Minimoog.
You can easily get close with a basic dotcom system.

Hey.. the old Synapse are online somewhere..

http://www.cyndustries.com/synapse/synapse.cfm?pc=43&folder=march1978&pic=21

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: help figuring out patch Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

numbertalk wrote:
I feel really dumb asking this, but I'm unable to get the general parameters for a particular sound - I'm attaching an mp3 - it's the repeated 4-note pattern. Every waveform I try sounds too buzzy (or the LPF is closed so much my patch sounds muted) except the triangle which isn't strong enough. If anyone has any ideas it would be great. I'm trying this on a Prophet 08 but also have an MS-20 and MS-50. Thanks.


The original Minimoog had a ramp/triangle type waveform inbetween the sawtooth and the triangle; I'm wondering if this patch is an example of that. Not many synths that I know of (for some reason) seem to have that waveform.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you play this stuff by hand then an Octave Cat will be able to be sound just as cool. The MS synths have a certain signature flavour that kinda doesn´t quite deliver the goods. Possibly the moog ladder filter will help you get closer. But then there is something about the VCOs and the envelopes and such.. I dunno.

But.. as far as I understand the architecture of the new Prophet 8, shouldn´t it be possible to get fairly close?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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But.. as far as I understand the architecture of the new Prophet 8, shouldn´t it be possible to get fairly close?


I would think it could and it does have a Saw-Tri wave - is that what it would be? Would make sense but like I said so far haven't come very close.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What does the filter envelope look like? That's also pretty key in this type of sound.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

soundwave106 wrote:
What does the filter envelope look like? That's also pretty key in this type of sound.


The filter envelope on the P08 is an ADSR.
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