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"Son Of Storm Tide" Flanger
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JoeMorris



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

excellent. count me in as soon as its ready.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jhaible wrote:

Yes, the TDA1022's. And a 1k tempco resistor. One 3086 (or 3046). The rest is garden variety stuff.

JH.

only one TDA1022 ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Does anyone know of a source for more TDA1022s? I just searched the web and found nothing



Ebay seller goodbuy711 has TDA1022's

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2pcs-TDA1022-Integrated-Circuit-for-Analogue-Signals_W0QQitemZ390061958426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad181251a&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177&_trkparms=

I bought some from him for my triple chorus and they worked fine. You will hear all kinds of stories about counterfeit chips for sale on ebay but I haven't had any problems with this seller (so far!). YMMV............
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thank you, 2thick! Didn't think to check evilbay. Got two on the way. I'll test them in my Triple chorus when they arrive. No way am I going to miss out on the SOST!!!

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Does anyone know of a source for more TDA1022s? I just searched the web and found nothing



Ebay seller goodbuy711 has TDA1022's

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2pcs-TDA1022-Integrated-Circuit-for-Analogue-Signals_W0QQitemZ390061958426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad181251a&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177&_trkparms=

I bought some from him for my triple chorus and they worked fine. You will hear all kinds of stories about counterfeit chips for sale on ebay but I haven't had any problems with this seller (so far!). YMMV............
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For those who have had problems in the past with HK sellers on ebay, check out:
http://www.vintageplanet.nl/semiconductors.html
Senso is super reliable and a nice guy also!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Funky40 wrote:
jhaible wrote:

Yes, the TDA1022's. And a 1k tempco resistor. One 3086 (or 3046). The rest is garden variety stuff.

JH.

only one TDA1022 ?


Two

JH.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just got a packet with those TDAs from goodbuy711. They're mounted in white styrofoam and wrapped with cellophane. I don't have high hopes for these.

2thick4uni wrote:
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Does anyone know of a source for more TDA1022s? I just searched the web and found nothing



Ebay seller goodbuy711 has TDA1022's

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2pcs-TDA1022-Integrated-Circuit-for-Analogue-Signals_W0QQitemZ390061958426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad181251a&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177&_trkparms=

I bought some from him for my triple chorus and they worked fine. You will hear all kinds of stories about counterfeit chips for sale on ebay but I haven't had any problems with this seller (so far!). YMMV............
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

vtl5c3 wrote:
Just got a packet with those TDAs from goodbuy711. They're mounted in white styrofoam and wrapped with cellophane. I don't have high hopes for these.

2thick4uni wrote:
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Does anyone know of a source for more TDA1022s? I just searched the web and found nothing



Ebay seller goodbuy711 has TDA1022's

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2pcs-TDA1022-Integrated-Circuit-for-Analogue-Signals_W0QQitemZ390061958426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad181251a&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177&_trkparms=

I bought some from him for my triple chorus and they worked fine. You will hear all kinds of stories about counterfeit chips for sale on ebay but I haven't had any problems with this seller (so far!). YMMV............


I got some of these the other day, from this seller. Plugged two into my triple chorus and they seem fine (Queen belting out, "I want to break free" with extra "solina" mode on as I type Wink). Not the first or last time I'll get ic's in an odd package me thinks. What made me suspicious of them at first was how clean these really look. I guess it is possible that these really have been kept very well in a good environment. Some look like they are in the same series as the ones I got from Luka previously. Not that I'm an expert on chip stampings!



PS: Obviously can't vouch for all their items.

Spratty Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crickelwood electronics have TDA1022s, not too cheap though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

£5 not too cheap?? Rolling Eyes I have never seen them so cheap in 20 years! Cricklewood were charging £50 each for their last stash of SAD 1024s a few years back.

Cricklewood is not a part of London that I would visit after dark!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

UPDATE

Feature List:

Two BBDs - can choose long/short delay for left/right channel independently.
Long Resonance loop or short resonance loop
1/x modulation for "natural" Flanging
1V/Oct input (temperature compensated) for Physical Modelling
Approximating Thru Zero Flanging with All Pass Filters in the direct path and "rectified 1/x" sweep
ARP-Quadra-style compander and germanium diode clipping for ultra-smooth high-resonance sound
"Bounce"
4 Built-in Modulation sources:
Triangle Wave
Expo-slew'ed Square Wave
Sample & Hold Random Steps
Envelope Follower
Voltage controlled Modulation Rate
Built-in power supply (only need AC wallwart) or MOTM +/-15V supply

Requires two TDA1022 chips!

JH.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jhaible wrote:
UPDATE

Feature List:

Two BBDs - can choose long/short delay for left/right channel independently.
Long Resonance loop or short resonance loop
1/x modulation for "natural" Flanging
1V/Oct input (temperature compensated) for Physical Modelling
Approximating Thru Zero Flanging with All Pass Filters in the direct path and "rectified 1/x" sweep
ARP-Quadra-style compander and germanium diode clipping for ultra-smooth high-resonance sound
"Bounce"
4 Built-in Modulation sources:
Triangle Wave
Expo-slew'ed Square Wave
Sample & Hold Random Steps
Envelope Follower
Voltage controlled Modulation Rate
Built-in power supply (only need AC wallwart) or MOTM +/-15V supply

Requires two TDA1022 chips!

JH.


Drool....when do you expect this project might be ready? Just when I was starting to actually catch up a bit on my JH queue too Smile Hopefully I'll finish the Living VCOs and Varislope Filter before there are boards for this.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Probably in 2 months if all goes well.

JH.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Prototype board populated - got the first sounds out of it - sounds very promising so far. As far as I can tell with alligator clips and all.
Too soon for real audio demos, but I'll keep working on it, slowly, as the baby allows ...

Keep up your interest, spread the information: a JH Flanger is definitely coming, if there is enough demand for a PCB run, and enough TDA1022's out there.

JH.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am still very interested in this project!
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jhaible wrote:

Keep up your interest, spread the information: a JH Flanger is definitely coming, if there is enough demand for a PCB run, and enough TDA1022's out there.

JH.


I missed this completely,i don't know why.

don't exactly know how manny,but will buy several pcb's
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am looking forward for this project and have already secured the required TDAs.

I have already two phasers in my modular and am deeply missing a Flanger to be hooked into the Neural Agonizer for some interesting sweeps and drones.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Schematic?
Thanks for doing this!
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oldschool57 wrote:
Schematic?
Thanks for doing this!


When everything is tested and in its final version, I'll offer PCBs and publish schematics.

JH.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:29 am    Post subject: Front Panel Preview Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That's what I'll put my prototype behind ...

JH.


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looks very complete Shocked

hmm wander how i gonna crop that into a 5u panel
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TekniK wrote:
looks very complete Shocked

hmm wander how i gonna crop that into a 5u panel


I won't, but I'm sure somebody will! Laughing

You can either make a very wide 5U panel, or omit the modulation stuff.

JH.

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myes,depending on the potvalues,i will probably need to use concentric pots.

as soon as you have a wiring diagram plz post it juergen,can start the layout check for my panels
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TekniK wrote:
myes,depending on the potvalues,i will probably need to use concentric pots.

as soon as you have a wiring diagram plz post it juergen,can start the layout check for my panels


LOL, I haven't even wired it myself, yet!

JH.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jhaible wrote:
TekniK wrote:
myes,depending on the potvalues,i will probably need to use concentric pots.

as soon as you have a wiring diagram plz post it juergen,can start the layout check for my panels


LOL, I haven't even wired it myself, yet!

JH.


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