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Microtonal VSTi's?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Microtonal VSTi's? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Does anyone know of any microtonal VST instruments?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

a few I know:

Native Instruments FM7/8
Native Instruments Pro53
Native Instruments Absynth
Native Instruments Kontakt
Spectrasonics Omnisphere
Camel Audio Cameleon 5000
Camel Audio Alchemy

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
a few I know:

Native Instruments FM7/8
Native Instruments Pro53
Native Instruments Absynth
Native Instruments Kontakt
Spectrasonics Omnisphere
Camel Audio Cameleon 5000
Camel Audio Alchemy


Thanks, Seraph! Very Happy I have the Kontakt demo, but I don't think it includes a microtonal patch.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't use Kontakt but I know that it can read tuning files created with "Scala" (freeware) software.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

arrow http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks! Meanwhile, I've found this:

ZynAddSubFX, which is a multitimbral synth with "Microtonal capabilities with any scale, any number of notes per octave (up to 127) and keymapping."

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1187.html

UPDATE: Here is where the actual download link is:

http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=220972&filename=ZynAddSubFX_2005.zip&a=64450984


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

LinPlug's entire product line is microtonal:

http://linplug.com/

As well as Cube and Tera here:

http://www.virsyn.de/en/E_Home/e_home.html

Zebra:

http://www.zebrasynth.com/

TimewARP's microtuning features done under guidance of Robert Rich:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/TimewARP2600.html

Synthogy Ivory has the gold standard of microtuning, the MIDI Tuning Spec sysex messages, for live control of tuning:

http://www.synthogy.com/news/announcements/n082508a.html

FM8 has MTS as well, but it is broken for live use.

Most others have only fixed scales, which are not as useful.

Pretty much everything can be retuned. Ones that have no tables built in can be retuned using software.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cakewalk Rapture has it too - it can import tuning files from Scala. With that setup you can get more than 12 notes per octave if needed (I'm itching to try 31 and 41et but have too many unfinished projects as it is!)

The BIG downside is that Rapture doesn't seem to read Scala's keyboard mapping files, so middle C is always fixed at its usual pitch. So you'd really struggle if you want just intonation scales starting from notes other than C. So always check the small print... there are softsynths out there that claim to be microtonal but don't really do the job.

Ideally you want to be able to tune any key to any imaginable pitch. Creating scales by manually entering every single note can be time consuming, but you can use Scala (or LMSO on Mac) to auto-generate scales mathematically and then tweak them however you like.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks, Octa! Very Happy I don't suppose it's in Cakewalk Home Studio 9, is it? I don't recall it, if it was. But, I still have it, though I never cared much for it and haven't used it in almost ten years.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:49 pm    Post subject: VAZ Modular Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VAZ Modular lets you load Scala tuning files. This can be done either globally or per-synth (up to 16 synths per instance).

More interestingly, it can also load tuning files through its quantizer module, whose output can be sent to individual oscillators (or used as a scaled control signal for modulation). You can also process the quant module's output through scaler, transpose, and other modules before it reaches the oscillators.

I haven't tried re-setting the key note but there are both input and output mapping slots for the quantize module so this may be possible.

Haven't used its microtuning facilities extensively, but I have tried quarter tones, JI, a LaMonte Young tuning, and equal/reverse equal per key. Fun stuff!

VAZ is Windows-only. It doesn't have a glitzy interface or a ton of features but it does sound great. It's well-supported but it's what I'd call a mature product--a few bugfixes a year, some occasional new modules, zero marketing.

http://www.software-technology.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've tried Vaz before; a demo, I think, unless it's freeware. I don't recall, as it's been while. Thanks! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello,

There is also the Pianoteq with internal presets but it also accepts files Scala : http://www.pianoteq.com/

There is the virtual KX-Synth-X16 mono or KX-Synth-X16V2 (in a few days before V2.5) which is polyphonic for PC. It is free and relies on the architecture of the matrix of the Ems VCS3 but with a number of improvements.
To begin, the mono version is excellent. It allows you to tune each of the three oscillators on with different temperaments display the frequency in hertz. We may as well give in the quarter, 8th or 16th of tone on each three oscillators or make adjustments to its personnel.

It's here, on the middle page :
http://kx77free.free.fr/English-page.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I found another, new and freeware: http://www.xen-arts.com/p/download-vsti.html

What about the sound quality of these synths?
Reaktor can load scala files???

xjscott software seems amazing, Im setting up a "hackintosh" but I dont have the money right now to buy Lil miss scale oven...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: microtonal VSTi's?
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does anybody have any info on what happened to lil miss scale oven? i can't find it anywhere. (?!)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: microtonal VSTi's?
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skotterz wrote:
does anybody have any info on what happened to lil miss scale oven? i can't find it anywhere. (?!)


unfortunately X.J. Scott closed down the website but you can still get LMSO here: http://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=6FATR_LIVE&KagiAffiliate=microtonalprojects

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