Portable white noise generator

amicoleo · Joined: Jan 31, 2013 Posts: 4 Location: Italia

Hi everybody!

I want to build a simple white noise generator and I need it to be portable, so my idea was to have it powered from a 9v battery. I found this design from an old experimentalists anomymous forum post.
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Here supply is 9v instead of usual 15v I've always seen from a 2 transistor noise circuit and I supposed the ampification stage after the 2 transistors is for compensating the weak signal is coming out from them. So I built the simplest 2 transistor noise circuit
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(which despite from the 9v in the figure, with 2n3904 transistor works just with 12+ volts as supply) put an inverting opamp with about 45db gain at the output, and used a supply of 9v, but I had no success (nothing is coming out exept hum sound)...

There's one part of the first circuit I didn't really understand, which could be the cause of my problem: the + pin of the opamp is just connected to ground through a resistor? I don't understand why there's also the supply indicated there...

Any suggestion?

thanks!

richardc64

PHOBoS · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:03 pm Post subject:

hmm I didn't have any succes with that simple white noise generator either. that is at 9V. It worked but I think I also needed to
provide at least 12V. I tried several similar ciruits, different kinds of transistors but all had the same problem. So in the end I just
made a voltage multiplier using a 555 to power it and that worked fine. Rolling Eyes

-minus- · Joined: Oct 26, 2008 Posts: 780 Audio files: 13

The simple two transistor design will work on 9V. I have used this several times. But it does need to be 9V. At 8V it will really be struggling to make noise. If you are using a battery, make sure it's new. Socket your transistors and test many of them to find the noisiest. I have had good results with PN100's or 2N2222's.

amicoleo · Joined: Jan 31, 2013 Posts: 4 Location: Italia

Hey!

yeah, my 9v battery wasn't really providing 9v... Embarassed

Many thanks richardc64 for the circuit, that was exactly what I was trying to achieve. I just didn't know (yet) how to make an inverting amp with a single supply!

Mikmo

I build the circuit that Richardc64 presented above. When i power it with a fresh 9V battery it work perfectly, giving good white noise. But if i power it with any powersupply i get hum, wails and abolutely no white noise.

I tried 3 different powersupplys, all of them work perfectly well with my oscillators, filters and all other modules (all simple Lunetta style yuff, running at 9V). It's only with the noise generator i have problems.

What can the problem be?

fluxmonkey · Joined: Jun 24, 2005 Posts: 705 Location: cleve

these circuits work by taking very small signals (from the reverse-biased transistor) and amplifying them tremendously. any hum or ripple at all in the power supply, or picked up from a breadboard or a stray wire, will easily swamp the noise signal itself.

richardc64

elektrouwe · Joined: May 27, 2012 Posts: 85 Location: Germany

bubzy · Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:19 am Post subject:

or. you can code a PIC up like this

http://www.electricdruid.net/forums.html?page=projects.noisegen