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How to trigger Dumping of Program parameters via CC/Sysex
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject: How to trigger Dumping of Program parameters via CC/Sysex Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello there,

I'm looking for a possibility to tell the Nord Lead 4 to send me all parameter values via Midi CC.
Manually, thats possible in the MIDI menu / 6 - Send CC (page 43 in the manual).
Exactly that I need to trigger with a midi cc or if necessary with a sysex message.

How (which midi cc / sysex message) to achieve that?
Is there documentation I missed?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmmm, I am sure the NL4 should be able to do this, but after a quick scan of the manual it seems there is no sysex info there…

You can do a Dump One command from the front panel of course… (also page 43)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello,

however I exactly need to trigger the param transfer in the opposite direction, that is: VST->NordLead

Any ideas / suggestions how to achieve that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, as I said, there is nothing in the manual about system exclusive messaging, which seems like an oversight to me... The NL4 certainly accepts sysex.

What you are looking for is an All Controllers Request message, which previous Nord Leads would accept. Either that or a Patch Dump Request.


Maybe time to ask on the Nord Forum perhaps, or Clavia support even.

Sorry I can't help you more, any searches I did turned up blank.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the answer.

I still posted in the nord forum where I got no reply and asked Nord Support who couldn't or didn't really want to help me. I also googled for some hours.

At least now you gave me two key words for which I will try to find a sysex message that I can send to the nord lead.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK, this is a shot in the dark, but have you tried this?

Byte (Hex)
$F0 $33 $00 $04 $14 $00 $F7

Byte (Decimal)
240 51 0 4 20 0 247

This is the All Ctrl Request message for both the Nord Lead 1 and 2X, so they may have kept it the same. For this specific message the global channel must be 1 and it sends the controllers for Slot A. The global channel (device ID) is the third byte, if you want to change that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for your reply..sounds promising..In the first try my sysex I sent didn't affect the nord lead.

I asked for help / example code in another forum as there is no documentation for the framework I'm using to build the VST.

EDIT: Today I got reply from Nord that the "Request All Controllers" command is not available in the Nord Lead 4. So that's it with my project Sad

Btw. thanks Muied Lumens for helping
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It turned out that sysex can not be send from my targeted daw (ableton live).

So sysex is no more an option for my problem.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

syrious wrote:
I asked for help / example code in another forum as there is no documentation for the framework I'm using to build the VST.

EDIT: Today I got reply from Nord that the "Request All Controllers" command is not available in the Nord Lead 4. So that's it with my project.


What a pity! Perhaps Clavia will include sysex capability in a future update... seems strange not to.

Also, maybe with Max for Live it is possible to do sysex? I don't know Live at all though.

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