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dreinulldrei
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
my first posting and already with a problem.
A few years ago i bought s/h a NL3. Lately it seems that there´s a annoying noise in the signal pathway, that can also be heard on the headphone output.
An example of the noise you can download as wave here: http://geschnittenbrot.podspot.de/post/britzelbass/
Usually you can´t hear that noise when doing pad or lead sounds or fx sounds, but mostly in bass sounds you can hear this. Is it something i can fix myself or what else can i do?
Please help me. I´ve written Clavia already a dozen emails about it. So far no reaction from their side.
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:35 am Post subject:
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Are you able to post the SySex file?
I would like to try it out on my NordLead3.
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:14 am Post subject:
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If you're on a Windows machine, you can use Clavia's Nord Sound Manager.
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:41 am Post subject:
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Any computer based tool which can send and receive Sysex?
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:58 am Post subject:
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It could be very handy, so you can archive your NL3 patches on the computer.
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dreinulldrei
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject:
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Thank you Wout for checking at least. Any idea what it could be?
It is clearly influenced by the ADSR, so it can´t be some distortion of the signal outputs, rather must be something else inside the circuits.
What also drives me crazy is that with most patches you can´t hear it, but with certain ones you do. Especially that Rhodz patch shows it loud and clear. Maybe the FM section is warped?
What i haven´t tried yet is to backup all sounds and do a full hardware reset (if that´s possible). _________________ Blog: http://dreinulldrei.wordpress.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject:
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Personally I think there something wrong with the DAC's...
Maybe you better contact:
Sound Service GmbH
Bundesallee 86-88
D-12161 Berlin
Germany
Phone: +43-(0)662-442164
Fax: +43-(0)662-442194
website: http://www.soundservice.de
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:12 am Post subject:
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dreinulldrei wrote: | ... They told me that the DSP board probably needs to get replaced. A few hundred euros. |
Replacing the DSP board is rather easy. They won't allow you to do it yourself (They want to make some money too), but maybe the best way is to make an appointment and make the trip to them. It wil be done in twenty minutes, so you can take your synth back. The best way to transport the synth is by yourself...
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:22 am Post subject:
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The trip to the store would take me about a day and a couple more hundred Euros, since i am in the north of Germany, and they are in the far south in a little village.
The most expensive part is the board itself. They told me that one DSP is like 80Euro.
If i mail it to them (via UPS or so) they can also fix some other thing ("Store" button is stucking all the time) and do an overall system check. _________________ Blog: http://dreinulldrei.wordpress.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:03 am Post subject:
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That's real s**t!
The only funny part is there is no 'lead' in a 'Lead' anymore, but that won't help you much...
BTW which part is broken, since they will not replace the whole board?
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dreinulldrei
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:03 am Post subject:
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Wout Blommers wrote: | That's real s**t!
The only funny part is there is no 'lead' in a 'Lead' anymore, but that won't help you much...
BTW which part is broken, since they will not replace the whole board?
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Yeup. Only a Nord 3 then.
They would replace the whole DSP board...if there would be still DSP boards available...but Clavia don´t have those anymore. So my guess is that they will replace the DSP chips and see if the problem is still there and go from there.
It´s a shame that they don´t have replacement boards for their 2000Euro performance synth flagship anymore. And yes the NL3 is out of production. And i doubt they will introduce a NL4, the NL2x is selling too well for that. I consider to downgrade...otoh the NL3 interface is the best and most advanced i ever found in a synth so far. _________________ Blog: http://dreinulldrei.wordpress.com
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