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fonik
Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject:
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fonik wrote: | here i attach the corrected and complete zip i finaly got the board made from: |
errr... i am not sure about the syntax could any native speaker correct me? PM me please, it must not be that public... _________________
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numbertalk
Joined: May 05, 2008 Posts: 992 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject:
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fonik wrote: | i won't tell anyone what i've paid for this PCB, you'd called me mad
(just go to their site an type in the size and the specs of the PCB you desire and you will immediately see the pricing.) |
I don't think you're crazy - I just checked the price at Futurlec and I'm interested enough in this that if a group buy doesn't come together I'll eventually get one made for myself as well Of course it would be better if even a small group buy would come together to knock the cost down some. I'm not up for organizing this myself but am definitely on board if someone else does.
By the way, if I wanted to compare the price, is there anyway to open those updated gerber files you attached in the Express PCB software? I couldn't find a way to do it. |
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johans121
Joined: Jun 19, 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Huntsville, AL (USA)
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject:
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add another freak to the list! i've got the perfect enclosure for this beastie! _________________ Don't feed me Indian, you WILL regret it!
-Jim |
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fonik
Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject:
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numbertalk wrote: | By the way, if I wanted to compare the price, is there anyway to open those updated gerber files you attached in the Express PCB software? I couldn't find a way to do it. | no. expressPCB is expressPCB. they created their own format. _________________
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ach_gott
Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 79 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:31 am Post subject:
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Want! I didn't know anyone had undertaken this project... I remember seeing it a while back on Jim's website and thinking, "No one will ever make these."
I, too, would pay a premium if it ends up being in smaller quantities. |
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rjd2
Joined: Sep 02, 2007 Posts: 236 Location: philly
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject:
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i'd go for a board. gonna have to do something between now and retirement, right?
if the board comes out to around the 100 dollar range, we could always pre-pay whoever hosts to make it easier.
also, a friend of mine was telling me about a "vocal synthesizer" that was made pre-1980. is this related somehow? |
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zthee
Joined: Feb 20, 2008 Posts: 414 Location: Stockholm
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:55 am Post subject:
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If you go to futurlec.com and punch in the size of the boards + silkscreen, double sided and solder mask and you order 2 - then the price is $138...
And for 10 boards its' $448...
I'd be very tempted to join a run - but I don't think I'd manage.. The project is just to intimidating. |
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fonik
Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:15 am Post subject:
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zthee wrote: | If you go to futurlec.com and punch in the size of the boards + silkscreen, double sided and solder mask and you order 2 - then the price is $138...
And for 10 boards its' $448...
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that is a great price. i paid about 80$ without taxes back then... _________________
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matthias
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ach_gott
Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 79 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:04 am Post subject:
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At that price it's a steal. Even once you add shipping, PP fees, and some money for your efforts the boards are still extremely reasonable considering the capabilities. I would put up the funds for a small run if someone else will handle the order/shipping... ten or so boards should be an easy sell I would think.
Since you did the TH SN/SCM order, you may be perfectly well-equipped to do the whole shebang yourself, though, fonik. |
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fonik
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:01 am Post subject:
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ach_gott wrote: | Since you did the TH SN/SCM order, you may be perfectly well-equipped to do the whole shebang yourself, though, fonik. |
i am doing the resonators thing (i don't want to think about the number of packages i have to process). and then i am currently knee deep in the quantizer contruction. alongside all this i am still stuffing my vocal filter board... YES, i already have a board
so someone else should do this. there will be 10 people, won't they? to think to get this board for 50$... _________________
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matthias
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krisp14u
Joined: Nov 11, 2006 Posts: 206 Location: uk
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject:
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First off I am definitely up for this PCB
If no one has organized the group buy in a month or two, I will do it but I am way too busy at the moment with other things that need my full attention _________________ Cheers
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b-funk
Joined: Jul 17, 2007 Posts: 193 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject:
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same with me. i'm thinking about this project a lot recently, but my time is very limited right now... but i think i would do it, too. or maybe paul does the boards, and i do part kits? well, we'll see...
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ach_gott
Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 79 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject:
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I'm happy to put up the money, take collections upon arrival, and do the shipping. But I'm not an EE or anything like that, so I can't evaluate the boards and I can't conduct technical discussions. Also, I wouldn't have time to build the thing immediately and quickly to verify the board.
I'm a builder/consumer of PCBs not a creator and if a question should arise ("Why didn't you check xyz?") I'd be lost.
So... I would need a reliable partner on my side of the pond (I'm in Chicago) to handle the technical if I handle the biz. |
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johans121
Joined: Jun 19, 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Huntsville, AL (USA)
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject:
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krisp14u wrote: | First off I am definitely up for this PCB
If no one has organized the group buy in a month or two, I will do it but I am way too busy at the moment with other things that need my full attention |
I'm in the same boat, I would organize it, however I'm going to be traveling to India for a couple months (hopefully). If all works out, I'll begin my travels mid april. I don't think one month would give me enough time to organize this before I leave....
I am DEFINITELY down for at least one board though. I think there are already 10 people who said they'd get one for the right price (< $100)..... Count me in for sure.
-jim _________________ Don't feed me Indian, you WILL regret it!
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rjd2
Joined: Sep 02, 2007 Posts: 236 Location: philly
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject:
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ach_gott wrote: | I'm happy to put up the money, take collections upon arrival, and do the shipping. But I'm not an EE or anything like that, so I can't evaluate the boards and I can't conduct technical discussions. Also, I wouldn't have time to build the thing immediately and quickly to verify the board.
I'm a builder/consumer of PCBs not a creator and if a question should arise ("Why didn't you check xyz?") I'd be lost.
So... I would need a reliable partner on my side of the pond (I'm in Chicago) to handle the technical if I handle the biz. |
well, in theory, then we would just need someone who is confident as a troubleshooter to stuff/wire the proto board, and we're good to go, right? also, would it make sense, considering this wont be a $10 board, and a relatively small run, to do pre-payments instead of post-? dont want you getting stuck w/ a couple overages, could be a couple hundred bucks potentially. |
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numbertalk
Joined: May 05, 2008 Posts: 992 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject:
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rjd2 wrote: | also, would it make sense, considering this wont be a $10 board, and a relatively small run, to do pre-payments instead of post-? dont want you getting stuck w/ a couple overages, could be a couple hundred bucks potentially. |
I would be willing to pre-pay. |
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Luka
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.
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krisp14u
Joined: Nov 11, 2006 Posts: 206 Location: uk
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:43 am Post subject:
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I don’t want to be miss understood in my offer to do a PCB run All I am offering is to get the PCB’s at a reduced price for me and other members of the group
I am not offering any further support on the project it would be a pay your money and get your PCB end of deal (I would of coarse help on the forum post where I could if time permits)
I think anyone taking on this project (buying a PCB to build for them selves) must have the Knowledge, experience and a lot of determination to see it through
cheers
Paul _________________ Cheers
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fonik
Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:49 am Post subject:
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krisp14u wrote: | I think anyone taking on this project (buying a PCB to build for them selves) must have the Knowledge, experience and a lot of determination to see it through |
indeed. i am thinking about an euro rack front panel now, and it will end up beeing a 19'' 3U case, like the klee2 - just to give everyone an idea.
(i am even considering break out PCBs for the front panel components to make the wiring easier...) _________________
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matthias
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Usine Karate
Joined: Jun 09, 2007 Posts: 64 Location: Hackney Wick
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:30 am Post subject:
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I'd definitely be up for pre-paying for a board if someone went to the trouble of organizing a group buy.
I've never ordered boards, or dealt with any board houses, checked prototypes etc, so unfortunatley I'd not be much help in getting a run together.
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fonik
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:39 am Post subject:
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while you are talking, i am building (no offense!).
since i am building this alongside the other projects there is only a slow progress. however, the board is populated - just a view diodes are backordered. now i am going to design the front panel.
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Junk Rhythm
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:44 am Post subject:
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fonik wrote: |
since i am building this alongside the other projects there is only a slow progress. however, the board is populated - just a view diodes are backordered. now i am going to design the front panel.
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Looks beautiful so far! |
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fonik
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:55 am Post subject:
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here is my 1st sketch for a front panel (19'', 3U). i wonder if anyone could verify my understanding of the controls? andrew?
from the left/top to the right/bottom:
the CV in (or vowel control)
three lines of CV shapers and the associated filters/mixer sections, each consisting of:
- 4x breakpoint control (CV in, init, gain),
- shaper offset and gain,
- shaped cv out normalled to filter freq cv in,
- freq cv, q cv, freq and q init,
- BP and LP mix cv and init.
and then the audio input and output.
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preliminary. the final panel will be printed, not engraved, i think. |
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matthias
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andrewF
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fonik
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:03 am Post subject:
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thank you for your fast reply. looking at your panel i think i did it right, just a little bit more control options. yes, i will have all four break points of each of the three shapers voltage controlled. so are the filters freq, q and mix.
and i will have to make some use out of switching sockets, so that i could have one control voltage for all three shapers, filters, or mixers... _________________
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matthias
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