music composed entirely of live sex sounds

jessicavale · Joined: Oct 08, 2004 Posts: 31 Location: NEW YORK CITY

Nope. these are unmastered, and not 100% final mixes.
They are getting close though...what are your thoughts?

evangelista · Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 10 Location: nyc

The mixes are being tweaked all the way up to the mastering date in a couple of weeks.

I assume you ask because you find the web snippets rough or unpolished. I assure you that this is mostly out of choice. We've had some mixes that were done in a more polished manner, and it just sounded like another dancy electronic album. No thanks.

Part of what I'm trying to achieve with the overall sound is a feeling of voyeurism - like you're listening to something that you shouldn't be privy to. I don't see this thing as music - more of an audio collage.

paul e. · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:29 am Post subject:

my thought is that the femaile voice that is spoken/whispered is too sibilant..[i.e. peaking around the 1-10khz range , and has a slight 'whistling' sound on the sibilants like 's' and 't'

also, the voice cuts above the mix and sounds too 'raw'...the music is deep and evocative but the voice sounds like a plain voice-over...compromises the mood when the voice pops in over the mix

perhaps you can use some compression on the vocals to get them to sit 'inside' the mix

and also use an eq to cut above , say, 5k

jessicavale · Joined: Oct 08, 2004 Posts: 31 Location: NEW YORK CITY

which samples are you referring to in particular - or do mean all 3?

paul e. · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:34 am Post subject:

i hear you when you say you are going for a sense of 'voyeurism'..
and you mixed the vocals in the fashion you did, to acheive this effect

in my humble pinion..almost there, but not quite

and considering how important the vocals are in this piece, they key would be to be to find the 'sweet spot' for the vox...[no pun intended]

evangelista · Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 10 Location: nyc

Paul, I very much appreaciate your input.

Here are my thoughts - I, too, find the vox a bit sibilant. However, I also find that the mastering engineers I use typically de-ess the entire mix to reduce upper midrange harshness. De-essers are a strange breed - good ones are great, bad ones make you sound lispy. In the past, I have found without exception that when I leave that part of the process to the mastering engineer the end result is better.

Talk to me - does this make any sense to you, or do I sound like I'm spewing out my ass?

Ya got some ears on ya, I'll give you that.

paul e. · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:48 am Post subject:

if you guys are getting a proper mastering job, then that is great...

a 'real' mastering job can work wonders...very worhtwhile

but i'm not sure how that will help the vocal sit in the mix better

perhaps they will use a bus compressor...

paul e. · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:50 am Post subject:

i'm curious...

what is your background in recording and mixing..

i have a feeling you guys have few intersting projects under your belts

evangelista · Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 10 Location: nyc

paul e. · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:56 am Post subject:

interesting...

i guess the 'smile' curve will reduce that mid-range..

having a mastering engineer whose work you know must be very helpful while mixing...

jessicavale · Joined: Oct 08, 2004 Posts: 31 Location: NEW YORK CITY

incidenty, the mastering house we will most likely be using is in the top 3 in NYC...so they know their shit :)

paul e. · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:02 am Post subject:

how do y'all plan to distribute your release... Question

evangelista · Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 10 Location: nyc

evangelista · Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 10 Location: nyc

paul e. · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject:

sounds intriguing