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crashlander42
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State Machine
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:31 am Post subject:
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Crash,
It says on the Sparkfun page that you can use "Winpic", which in the device list the device you want to program is there:
http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/winpicpr.html
# dsPIC30F2010 (theoretically ALL dsPIC30F devices supported, a few tested)
# PIC16C61, PIC16C71
# PIC16C84, PIC16F84
# PIC16C710, PIC16C711, PIC16C715
# PIC10F200, PIC10F202, PIC10F204, PIC10F206
# PIC12F629, PIC12F635, PIC12F675, PIC12F683
# PIC12F609, PIC16F610, PIC12F615, PIC16F616 (new since 2007-06)
# PIC16F627, PIC16F627A, PIC16F628, PIC16F628A
# PIC16F630, PIC16F636, PIC16F648A
# PIC16F676, PIC16F684, PIC16F688
# PIC16F73, PIC16F737, PIC16F74, PIC16F76, PIC16F77
# PIC16F818, PIC16F819
# PIC16F87, PIC16F88
# PIC16F873A...PIC16F877A
# PIC16F88
# PIC18F242, PIC18F248, PIC18F252, PIC18F258
# PIC18F442, PIC18F448, PIC18F452, PIC18F458
# PIC18F2XX0/2XX5/4XX0/4XX5 (tested: PIC18F2550)
# and other "quite compatible" devices, if you have the datasheet and a text edi |
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crashlander42
Joined: Oct 21, 2006 Posts: 292 Location: Orlando, FL (US)
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject:
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Ah, sweet. I missed that. I wasn't completely sure if there was hardware limitation to which chips it could burn or if it was just software. Are there any drawback to me going with this one. It is $80 cheaper than a lot of the other burners i see so it makes me kind of nervous. _________________ When they plug me in the lights go down in Hong Kong.
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State Machine
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject:
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Crash,
If these are chips , the ones you sited, that you will be working with for a while, it certainly is worth the small investment to get this small programmer. No sense in spending all the extra bucks for a more "universal" type programmer. The more expensive programmers are generally USB connected and do the job faster and is one reason they are more expensive. Functionally, the cheaper one will work, just not as fast.
If I were you, later I would purchase the Microchip ICD3 programming pod if you find your interest really peaking and move onto the bigger devices with more advanced debug capabilities.
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en537580
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blue hell
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject:
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State Machine wrote: | ICD3 |
Just some ramblings & impressions.
Last week, for my job, I tried some debugging with the real-ice thingie from microchip, apart from that it will not show me the processor stack and that I need a special connector on my target for timing info (the stopwatch is not implemented, so I'll need a trace instead I guess) it worked pretty well I must say, almost as good as the ice 4000 and 2000 systems do. Wonder how the ICD3 would compare to that, I've used the ICD2 (and not ICD3) but was not too impressed by that one. For one the real-ice can use soft break points, allowing me more than the 3 supported by the processor itself (or 1 breakpoint even for smaller processors). Anyway, the ICD2 is a good in circuit programmer I think, but not a really good debugger ... I gave it away, sort of ... that is the workshop now uses it as an in circuit programmer for small scale production (10s to 100s, lets say). _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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slo
Joined: Feb 18, 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject:
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I'm a total newb too and earlier today I went for this one,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270412251369&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:1123
It's usb driven and is supposed to be compatible with the Microchips IDE which is free on their webite. As a bonus it will program in-circuit so I suppose de-bugging is possible, though not for me with newb skills.
I also considered the PICkit 2 Debug express which only will program in-circuit, available from Digikey.
Have fun!
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widdly
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject:
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The sparkfun one is based on a JDM. I built one on perf and it worked fine from my linux desktop machine. It wouldn't work with any of my old laptops serial ports. I doubt it would work from a usb-serial adapter unless it had an external 12v supply.
You could build a jdm on a breadboard first to see if it works for your serial port. If it does then solder it up on perf.
There are designs for parallel port programmers that are even simpler, if you have a parallel port sitting around.
EDIT... oops sorry parallel port programmers dont work for those modern pics |
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crashlander42
Joined: Oct 21, 2006 Posts: 292 Location: Orlando, FL (US)
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject:
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ssoooo... I got my 16f684's in the mail and started building a simple JDM programmer on breadboard, then i noticed that this one called for a 18 pin socket (the 16f684 is a 14 pin chip). I also noticed that it mentioned that this design was limited to the 16x84. Is this limitation just the socket? can I adapt it to work with the 16f684? I'm fine with using headers and attaching them to the right pins if need be. I'm just not sure how to approach it.
http://www.semis.demon.co.uk/uJDM/uJDMmain.htm _________________ When they plug me in the lights go down in Hong Kong.
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