Censorship on this forum?

monobass · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:56 am Post subject:

The obvious way to deal with problems like this is to lock a thread, not to delete or 'move' it. Why hide it?

Kassen · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject:

Well, I disagree there. Locking is good to prevent escalation of a discussion that had a lot of usefull posts before some issue arose. Here the issue is in the top post.

Let's concentrate on a solution instead.

How about repeating the question in a polite style and attaching a fragement of the song that would give a good clear image of the effect you are after without being the complete work. Maybe something like 20 seconds or so.

Would something like that be acceptable to you, Hyde, Jan and Mosc? To me personally that sounds like it could at least be a good starting point for negotiations.

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject:

monobass · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject:

Hey, now we are getting somewhere. Try reading this one: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-11949.html
That thread actually contans many sensible posts from the admins and even some nice comments from several members.

[editor's note: Question

that is a link to this topic Question

--mosc]

Kassen · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject:

ok, but can we move on to looking for a solution instead of analysing past discussions?

By now the policy on "bad words" should be clear and I think it might be a good point to look on to how to deal with the original question?

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject:

Steve isn´t much interested in the original Q. Even I understand that.

monobass · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject:

I'm absolutely interested in the original question. Mike Patton uses some very original voice FX. Unfortunately I can't read the original question, Hydes technical details and the name of the song in question just in case it upsets someone of a nervous disposition.

blue hell · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject:

monobass · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject:

http://electro-music.com/forum/post-80316.html#80316

monobass · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject:

Wait. You negotated a solution with Jan and then he deleted it?

What's going on here?

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monobass · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject:

Mohoyoho · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject:

Man, you don't act left wing at all. Quite the opposite, really. The way you throw labels around reminds me of Rush Limbaugh and the pundits of Fox.

I don't normally involve myself in negative threads, but this one really bothers me. Insinuating that Christians are rightwing. . .please! I think you are grouping all Christians together to make a feeble attempt to justify childish behavior. I think what you meant to say is "right wing FUNDAMENTALIST Christians." There are many groups of Christians that have embraced liberal and humanistic causes. In recent (and past) years many priests and nuns have sacrificed their lives for human rights. In the USA many ministers and their congregations marched against the war in Vietnam.

If you don't like this forum, then please leave. What I like about electro-music is the comradary and the positive approach everyone has in informing and helping one another. There have been very few trolls, until now.

BobTheDog · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject:

monobass · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject:

Oh please, the Christian remark was a pun followed by a smiley which Mosc has already said he realised was a joke.

The point of this thread is censorship. Which is often associated with the christian conservative right in the US.

mosc · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject:

Yes, I could tell it was a joke. I can understand how it is offensive too. The common custom of civilized musicians is to joke about people that play the instrument oneself plays. So if you play the violin, you can make insulting jokes about the violin, but never about the banjo - for example. Even that can be difficult on a forum - so be sure use the simlies to indicate a joke, even when you are only half joking. Smile

Please everybody, lets cool off. Cool

I think the comments directed to Steve to start your own forum were rhetorical. I hope so, at least. I for one don't want him to do that. I think Steve has made some good and valid points. With so many members, some will think we are too exteme on our editing and some will encourage us to be more proactive. I want Steve to remain here, and Hyde too.

Nerves are frayed so lets try to peace out... Peace

Kassen's suggestion about reposting is a good one, IMHO.

I'm going to lock this topic.... (just kidding) Very Happy